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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#264776: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:59:23 PM

The only thing more certain than Trump not starting a nuclear war is Trump saying something stupid on twitter tonight.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#264777: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:05:53 PM

Wonder which ranking policy wonk or general is willing to sacrifice their career, reputation and blood pressure to succeed Mathis?

—- And buckle the fuck up ladies and gents, because Trump might be announcing another major move on Afghanistan in the coming days.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20/politics/trump-afghanistan-announcement/index.html

Must be happy times in Moscow and Tehran.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Dec 20th 2018 at 7:08:29 AM

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#264778: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:17:42 PM

So, apart from Pence, who of Trump's original staff's still left at this point?

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#264779: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:19:08 PM

Kellyane Conway’s still there, I believe, as is Ben Carson, and I honestly would not be surprised if Trump just forgot he was there.

Oh God! Natural light!
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#264780: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:20:05 PM

[up] Heck, Carson looks like he would forget he is there.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#264781: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:21:04 PM

So after Trump is gone (whether it be in two years or, gulp, six) do you think they're going to try to George Bush him and act like he never happened?

Like, obviously Trump won't be content to just fade away, but do you think they'll try or will "Party of Trump" just sort of stick?

TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#264782: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:21:51 PM

Of course they will. Send him to the bottom of the abyss in terms of trying to forget him.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264783: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:21:58 PM

Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but wasn't everybody convinced that Bolton might start a nuclear war just as a National Security Advisor? What if someone like him becomes the new Secretary of Defense?

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#264784: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:23:11 PM

He first needs to get him confirmed. And thats after he averts a shutdown, gets a new AG through confirmation and what fuckery else shows up. This is not a concern until we get some names.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#264785: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:23:52 PM

I mean what's he actually going to do?

The Secretary of Defense has no authority to unilaterally order a nuclear strike and like I said, they all seem content to be useful idiots to the one nation we'd have a nuclear war with.

Oh really when?
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#264787: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:26:29 PM

[up]And he was one of the sanner around....which....kind asaid something.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#264788: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:27:19 PM

I mean, any Trump Stooge is probably gonna get a even bigger helping of "We're gonna get right on it" from the Joint Chiefs while they go back to play Candy Crush on the phone.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#264789: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:31:37 PM

Well, I think one of the many things Trump criticized Obama for was his supposedly huge Turnover of Staff in the White House...

...man, those right-wingers are really, really good in projection, aren't they? In order to figure them out, you just need to listen to what they accuse other people of. Then you know where to dig.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264790: Dec 20th 2018 at 3:37:08 PM

That is so true.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#264791: Dec 20th 2018 at 4:03:45 PM

Regarding Mattis' retirement, have the PDF of the resignation letter courtesy of USA Today. Of particular note is that third paragraph.

One core belief I have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to the strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. While the US remains the indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining those strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. Like you, I have said from the beginning that the armed forces of the United States should not be the policeman of the world. Instead, we must use all tools of American power to provide for the common defense, including providing effective leadership to our alliances. NATO's 29 democracies demonstrated the strength in their commitment to fighting alongside us following the 9-11 attack on America. The Defeat-ISIS coalition of 74 nations is further proof.

Based on that, I've a feeling that Mattis was getting frustrated with Trump long before now because of how he'd piss on alliances, but the unilateral withdrawal from Syria was The Last Straw.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#264792: Dec 20th 2018 at 4:04:11 PM

[up][up][up]I want to know they are going to denied what it happen in trump administration, I mean I feel this will be the third wave of negacoism since negating the holocaust and lost cause bullshit.

Edited by unknowing on Dec 20th 2018 at 8:04:58 AM

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#264793: Dec 20th 2018 at 4:22:28 PM

IMO, no amount of moratoria on discussing any subjects is going to do any good unless they're compiled in a pinned post that everyone would see no matter which page on the thread they're in.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#264794: Dec 20th 2018 at 4:26:22 PM

[up]That makes so much sense.

Do not obey in advance.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#264795: Dec 20th 2018 at 4:26:23 PM

Man, with how this week has gone, the political cartoons tomorrow on Politico's Cartoon Carousel are gonna be something.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#264796: Dec 20th 2018 at 4:45:17 PM

Oh, and in Kill the Poor news, the USDA is moving to implement the work requirements for SNAP that got stripped from the farm bill. This is allegedly as a trade to get Trump to sign the farm bill to begin with.

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Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 20th 2018 at 7:47:59 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#264797: Dec 20th 2018 at 4:50:45 PM

[up][up][up][up] A “no doomsaying” sticky might be helpful.

They should have sent a poet.
KamonTheSkunk The Little Stinker Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Little Stinker
#264798: Dec 20th 2018 at 5:15:21 PM

Well, the house managed to pass a bill to stop a shutdown. But it seems unlikely that the senate will approve of it since it includes $5 billion for the wall.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/house-passes-stopgap-funding-bill-5-billion-trump-s-border-n950666?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#264799: Dec 20th 2018 at 5:33:03 PM

Sorry. I can understand why my sort of panic-talk can be annoying.

I actually come here to be reassured, oddly enough. I find it comforting voicing my fears to others

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#264800: Dec 20th 2018 at 5:36:23 PM

That's the complete opposite of stopping a shut down. Trump's wall was the whole reason a shut down is even on the table.


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