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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#264751: Dec 20th 2018 at 11:54:56 AM

Oh, it's definitely a scam. Too bad the authorities will charge the person in charge of that with fraud most likely.

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TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#264752: Dec 20th 2018 at 12:25:55 PM

The thing with most Holocaust deniers is that it comes off as "It didn't happen, but wouldn't it be great if it did?"

I visited the Auschwitz-II/Birkenau complex when on a tour in Europe. Maybe it's just me, but the camp still has that oppressive atmosphere of fear and hatred around it. Creeped the fuck out of me - I think that was the whole point. Didn't really speak much for a while after visiting it.

And it really takes a piece of work to look at that and go "Yeah, I'm okay with this" or worse "This is all fake" with a straight face.

And evil always starts with small steps. Very, very small steps.

Edited by TechPriest90 on Dec 20th 2018 at 3:29:20 PM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#264753: Dec 20th 2018 at 12:26:00 PM

So Trump predictably decided he won't sign the bill to avert the shutdown unless he gets his precious border wall money.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264754: Dec 20th 2018 at 12:30:40 PM

So Trump predictably decided he won't sign the bill to avert the shutdown unless he gets his precious border wall money.

Yup, it's going to be wonderful to see all the "Trump causes government shutdown over border wall" headlines. evil grin

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#264755: Dec 20th 2018 at 12:31:58 PM

So in news already-covered and not:

Edited by ironballs16 on Dec 20th 2018 at 3:39:13 PM

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#264756: Dec 20th 2018 at 12:41:19 PM

Oh, Trump's presidency will definitely have a legacy.

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#264757: Dec 20th 2018 at 12:50:15 PM

If Trump decides against signing the temporary spending measures, hope he not only likes the Trump Shutdown, but also a Trump Recession, because Democrats did not run on giving Trump what he wants, especially his stupid wall, and a Shut Down will pretty much actively kill our Economy (as it is starting to run downwards).

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#264758: Dec 20th 2018 at 12:59:00 PM

I stare at the 6 million dollars there and wonder what cause would have benefited most for it.

But I do note that people are constructing the Wall NOW.

A butterfly sanctuary was bulldozed by Trump construction workers who said the property was forfeit for it.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Dec 20th 2018 at 1:00:26 AM

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#264759: Dec 20th 2018 at 1:21:16 PM

Trump has openly stated that he'll take credit for shutting down the government during talks with Pelosi and Schumer. I really want them to let him.

Trump wants this to become a game of chicken. He's confident that Democrats will cave in and give him his Wall funding, on the grounds that we care more about the country's wellbeing than he does. We must not let him be right, or he will do this again.

When you give a bully what he wants, you can expect to see him again tomorrow.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 20th 2018 at 2:22:38 AM

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#264760: Dec 20th 2018 at 1:22:46 PM

[up][up]That hasn't happened in earnest just yet, though it will by February next year barring any legal injunctions.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Dec 20th 2018 at 1:23:17 AM

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#264761: Dec 20th 2018 at 1:28:07 PM

Actually in the case of the butterfly sanctuary it's only been surveyors illegally(?) entering the property to do measurements and set down survey markers. No actual bulldozing yet.

And honestly, that GoFundMe seems like it could be another scam, like those scams that trick flat-Earthers into funding a rocket to prove the Earth is flat or whatever.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264762: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:08:58 PM

Trump has openly stated that he'll take credit for shutting down the government during talks with Pelosi and Schumer. I really want them to let him.

Trump wants this to become a game of chicken. He's confident that Democrats will cave in and give him his Wall funding, on the grounds that we care more about the country's wellbeing than he does. We must not let him be right, or he will do this again.

When you give a bully what he wants, you can expect to see him again tomorrow.

I couldn't agree more [awesome]

To pay for the wall would be a travesty and a horrible mistake, thankfully Democrats voting for the wall will have the same fate as Republicans voting for Obamacare (without the knowledge that you're doing the right thing) and they probably know it.

So hopefully the Democratic Party will stand strong and the Republicans will suffer for their degeneracy.

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#264763: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:16:30 PM

Honestly, this is kinda the last chance for the Wall funding, given that if this passes the next Budget issue is in February...ie when the Dems hold the House.

So I doubt the Dem's see any reason to go beyond the amount they already agreed on it.

Edit:

Jim Mattis is gone, it seems (Trump Tweet)

General Jim Mattis will be retiring, with distinction, at the end of February, after having served my Administration as Secretary of Defense for the past two years. During Jim’s tenure, tremendous progress has been made, especially with respect to the purchase of new fighting....

....equipment. General Mattis was a great help to me in getting allies and other countries to pay their share of military obligations. A new Secretary of Defense will be named shortly. I greatly thank Jim for his service!

Edited by 3of4 on Dec 20th 2018 at 11:29:26 AM

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#264764: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:36:58 PM

[up] The Syria pull out must've been too much for Mattis. Shame he didn't leave sooner, because anyone who is still with Trump is essentially as dirty as him in my eyes, even if Mattis was one of the most stable voices in Trump's cabinet (and since he was 'Mad Dog' Mattis, that's saying something).

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#264765: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:38:36 PM

Yeah, I guess that too.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#264766: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:41:59 PM

You cannot convince me that if Obama had this much turnover, and all of these scandals, and working with a foreign power, that he wouldn't have been dragged out of the Oval Office and lynched on the White House lawn, secret service be damned.

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#264767: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:43:13 PM

So what are the odds of a nuclear war now that the only reasonable Republican is gone?

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#264768: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:49:14 PM

Absolutely zero, why would you even begin to think that'd be a possibility?

Like seriously, between this and the civil war crap doesn't anybody pay even the most basic attention to politics?

Oh really when?
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#264769: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:50:19 PM

Can we please put a moratorium on things like 'Is a Civil War/Nuclear War happening now' until at least 2019? It's getting really tiring.

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#264770: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:51:02 PM

Just being paranoid, I guess.

I mean, we all knew things would get bad when Trump won the election. Might not that mean the chances of more war go up as well?

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264771: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:51:15 PM

[up][up]Seconded.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 20th 2018 at 5:51:22 AM

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#264772: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:51:58 PM

[up][up]As every time this question has come up since he won the nomination: No.

You want reasons why? It's gotta be explained about 50 times these past 100 pages.

Edited by 3of4 on Dec 20th 2018 at 11:52:33 AM

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#264773: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:52:07 PM

Panic satisfies a basic emotional need to express anxiety.

But I agree, the probability is indistinguishable from zero.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#264774: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:53:09 PM

If anything the nonexistent chance just dropped even further because Trump seems more than happy to capitulate to the one person we'd have a war with in the first place.

Oh really when?
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#264775: Dec 20th 2018 at 2:53:32 PM

[up]x6 Thirded. For Christ’s sake.

Edited by wisewillow on Dec 20th 2018 at 5:54:07 AM


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