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math792d Since: Jun, 2011 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#264651: Dec 19th 2018 at 3:15:45 PM

[up][up][up] This is, without a shadow of a doubt, the single most poorly-informed post I have seen today, and given the standard of discourse on this forum occasionally reaches so low you couldn't fit an atom under the bar, this says a lot.

Read any material on the Third Reich that wasn't written by a conspiracy theorist and you won't find anything about Hitler trying to build a fucking border wall and threatening to shut down the German government in the process. It's a grotesque proposition, but saying this is the straw that makes him Hitler when he built concentration camps for children and separated them from their parents is beyond grotesque and overprivileged. What the actual fuck?

Edited by math792d on Dec 19th 2018 at 12:18:09 PM

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
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#264653: Dec 19th 2018 at 3:23:24 PM

@tsstevens: Why bring autism into any of this? As an autistic person myself, I'm pretty offended, and at least one of my autistic friends is a Trump supporter so they'd be offended.

And what does your post even have to do with autism, for that matter?

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#264654: Dec 19th 2018 at 3:30:36 PM

In some parts of the internet, "autistic" is the new "retarded".

It's as offensive as it sounds.

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#264655: Dec 19th 2018 at 3:33:11 PM

I thought that was what was going on, but even then I don't see how that statement makes sense with the rest of the post.

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#264656: Dec 19th 2018 at 3:34:07 PM

[up][up]Thanks for the context ... well that’s incredibly rude. What the hell, op. Seriously, what the hell.

Edited by wisewillow on Dec 19th 2018 at 6:34:19 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#264657: Dec 19th 2018 at 3:47:36 PM

> What are the odds Mueller indicts Roger Stone? Wa Po is reporting that he's asking the House for the transcripts of their closed door hearing with him.

Very likely,he'll get blood from a Stone if he has to,at this point I struggle to think anyone who can't be indicted aside from President obviously

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#264658: Dec 19th 2018 at 3:58:45 PM

Gonna go ahead and hollar then move on.

Stone looks to be the next person to be indited, after Stone it's really only the family left, Muller going after one of them is likely to be the point of rapid escalation.

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#264659: Dec 19th 2018 at 4:49:29 PM

Trump alerts Twitter bot: Trump just unfollowed Ann Coulter, likely after she said she wouldn't vote for him in 2020 if the wall wasn't being built.

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#264663: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:34:26 PM

[up][up] Which really begs the question of what they're supposed to do, if not that.

Edited by SciFiSlasher on Dec 19th 2018 at 7:34:34 AM

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#264664: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:36:40 PM

I fucking bet the judge would've been singing a very different tune if her own child was among those students.

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#264665: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:38:00 PM

They see their purpose singularly to educate and nothing else,protection isn't a priority to them because they feel that's the police are for

Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 19th 2018 at 5:39:02 AM

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#264666: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:44:06 PM

It’s already in the past been ruled that in the US the police have no duty to protect individuals, their job is to protect and enforce the law as a concept, nto individual citizens.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#264667: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:44:55 PM

Our law regarding the duty of care is often... really shitty.

There’s a case from the 1980s that’s to blame here. In De Shaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services (1989), the Supreme Court grappled with the fundamental question of a state’s constitutional duty to protect victims of child abuse. The Supreme Court concluded that the Constitution does not legally require states to protect its citizens, including abused children, from harms that the state did not directly generate.

Basically: if the government take you into custody, they have to protect you. If you’re running about independently, they don’t, unless THEY made the danger. That said, the lawyers should have argued (or may have) that students are in the school’s care when at school, and therefore the school/cops have a duty to protect, even if they didn’t make the danger.

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#264668: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:45:23 PM

How does that make any sense at all?

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#264669: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:47:07 PM

It makes more sense in context:

"Lawyer Kristoffer Budhram filed suit claiming the 15 students suffered "psychological injuries" as a result of the attack. The suit claimed the school district and county either have a policy of allowing “killers to walk through a school killing people without being stopped” or failed to adequately train employees to respond."

In other words, the school and the local police were being sued because they hadn't prevented the shooting from occuring. That's unreasonable, the judge rules, because how could they have?

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#264670: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:47:51 PM

NVM

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 19th 2018 at 8:48:16 AM

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#264671: Dec 19th 2018 at 5:48:45 PM

Given that the case the lawyer was bringing for the students was relying on the not-shot students' 14th amendment rights because of psychological harm, the entire legal case makes minimal sense to start with.

Is that really the best way to bring a case for negligence by poor security choices about?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#264672: Dec 19th 2018 at 6:32:40 PM

Honestly whut? It makes no sense to basically sue the school for - failing to mention that the shooter has left the building? I mean, whut? so yeah, the students were afraid for a little bit longer, but I kind of have a hard time to see how it makes much of a difference if you wait for 15 minutes or 30 minutes in fear of being shot.

Plus, it is a SCHOOL. If the police did something wrong, okay, but if the parents want their children in a virtual prison during the day for their "protection", well, maybe look for another school?

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#264673: Dec 19th 2018 at 6:42:19 PM

I sincerely apologize and am sorry for making a reference to Tropic Thunder to say what Trump has done is the same as Hitler. I certainly did not intend it to be offensive, absolutely had no intention of hurting people, the best I can explain it is having had enough of the Youtube wars, Twitter wars, over these issues. However much I have to flagulate myself or protrate myself to make amends I will do.

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DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264674: Dec 19th 2018 at 6:55:38 PM

Anyway, to answer your question about right-wing nuts starting a second Civil War—not much, given that their donors already control most of our government infrastructure already. I wouldn't put it past some militia deciding to suppress a protest, though...

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264675: Dec 19th 2018 at 7:00:12 PM

[up][up]Still doesn't change that comparing Trump threatening to shut down the border wall to anything Hitler did is completely nonsensical at best.


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