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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
They can't strip it anymore then they already have; they couldn't even kill it when they had both Chambers, the best they could do was set the Tax to 0. Doing literally anything else to the ACA would be subject to Filibuster in the Senate, and by next year they won't have the House.
So literally, the only way for all of ACA to die will be through this court ruling, and I doubt the Supreme Court will allow it to die this way even with the Tax being 0$.
Ryan Zinke will walk the plank
due to an impending criminal probe.
Vox has an article on the recent attempt to declare the ACA unconstitutional, The Texas ruling against Obamacare is a boon to Medicare-for-all
The argument is simply that the reason that Medicare-for-all has been becoming increasingly popular amongst the Democratic Party is that with constant Republican attacks on the ACA it's becoming increasingly clear that half-way measures are not worth it, one reason the ACA was originally supported was because Moderate Dems wouldn't accept Single Payer and Republicans might possibly accept a more market-oriented system. That has clearly shown to be a misplaced hope, Republicans will never accept any form of national healthcare single payer or otherwise.
It goes on to say that if the Republicans are successful in removing the ACA then they'll strip healthcare from millions of people which will cause them to face political devastation which could pave the way to giving the Democrats the opportunity to rebuild the healthcare system to their desires, hopefully, in the form of Medicare for All.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 15th 2018 at 12:28:23 PM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangLooking at the last few pages, I'm glad I've been ignoring this dumpster fire since the midterms. Anyways, looks like Trump and the GOP are going after Asians now, specifically Vietnamese: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/15/trump-vietnam-war-refugees-california-gop-orange-county-1066639
Wait a minute, he's trying to kick out the staunchest pro-Republican segment of the populace? The ones who fought against North Vietnam and who would almost certainly (the older ones, at any rate) be voting Republican?
If I didn't know any better, I'd say Trump's a plant to destroy the GOP from within. Or else he and his neo-Nazi fanboys are really that stupid.
Edited by TechPriest90 on Dec 15th 2018 at 10:06:42 AM
I hold the secrets of the machine.It's funny you mentioned Orange County, George Papadopoulos, Trump adviser and felon, plans Orange County congressional run in 2020
Clearly, the Republican Party's woes in Orange County are soon to come to an end. Because Trump adviser and convicted felon George Papadopoulos will be coming to the rescue! <hysterical laughter>
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThat reminds me, Septimus mentioned that Orange County had voted for Democratic representatives but also voted for Cox, the Republican for governor. That is no longer accurate. All the most recent ballot counts I've seen have Newsom, the Democrat, win OC with 50.1% of the vote. That's as narrow as possible, sure, but it's still something.
Again, I think people need to remember Trump hates the Republican party.
More than they hate him.
Which is considerable.
A stopped clock is right twice a day and Trump IS an outsider to the GOP. Even if it's only because he doesn't give a shit if any rich person but him benefits from their corruption.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.![]()
I don't really see any reason to believe this, he hates the establishment Republicans who fail to perfectly bend the knee but that is not the same thing as hating the Republican Party.
Honestly, this sounds dangerously close to whitewashing the Republican Party by suggesting that Trump was something forced onto them, which isn't true in the slightest.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 16th 2018 at 12:32:17 PM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang"Whitewash" is a pretty strong word to use in this context, especially considering that Trump did force himself on the party through the win in the primary.
Saying that the party is better than Trump - that on the other hand would be a whitewash as they are not really better than Individual-1 in many aspects.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThis is exactly what I mean by whitewash, winning the primary is the exact opposite of being forced onto the party. The party's base chose him and then the politicians fell in line, there was no force involved.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang"Again, I think people need to remember Trump hates the Republican party.
More than they hate him.
Which is considerable.
A stopped clock is right twice a day and Trump IS an outsider to the GOP. Even if it's only because he doesn't give a shit if any rich person but him benefits from their corruption."
That's the nonsense Republicans themselves peddle to make themselves look better in the face of Trump. It's not reflected in reality: his decisive victory in the primaries, the base's overwhelming support of Trump, and Congress's rubberstamp regime point to the exact opposite conclusion. The fact that they're constantly in a bad place and failing is due to their fundamental incompetence.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Dec 16th 2018 at 12:47:46 PM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."

This is a stretching of the Constitution to say the very least and why appeals exist.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.