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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'm not all that interested in splitting hairs over whether Donald is alt-right or not; while the term "alt-right" does have a use for denoting a specific subset of the far-right, it's important to remember that it unfortunately also arose as a mask for white supremacists, neo-nazis, anti-semites, and miscellaneous far-right clowns to hide behind.
The alt-right are Trump's biggest and loudest fanboys. Being a narcissist, he's naturally going to echo them (which in turn makes them even more fervently devoted to him). They're enabling each other. This is of course made easier by the fact that Trump is a bigoted white man who likes to rant on Twitter.
Edited by M84 on Dec 12th 2018 at 2:25:24 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedThey latched on to her primarily because she was a pretty white girl who didn't immediately flat out reject and denounce them. When she did eventually denounce them by announcing she'd vote for the Democratic Party they reacted predictably.
Edited by M84 on Dec 12th 2018 at 5:31:43 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedMitch Mc Connell, in reversal, says Senate will vote on criminal justice bill
https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/2275332002
"At the request of the president and following improvements to the legislation that have been secured by several members, the Senate will take up the revised criminal justice bill this month," the Kentucky Republican said. He said he would turn to it as early as the end of the week.
An unusual coalition of Republicans and Democrats, civil rights groups and small-government conservatives have pushed for action on the Senate bill called the “First Step Act." President Donald Trump also backs it.
The effort to pass a Senate bill had stalled as Mc Connell remained reluctant to bring it to a floor vote by the end of the year. Then pressure began to mount on him from Trump and other Republican senators.
The measure would give judges more discretion in sentencing offenders for nonviolent crimes, particularly drug offenss, and bolster rehabilitation programs for former prisoners. It would also call for placing federal prisoners closer to home – no more than 500 miles – so families could visit more often.
Funny how a large proportion of the GOP facing the prospect of federal fraud charges suddenly leads to serious discussions in both the Senate and Congress about the implementation of prison reforms for non-violent crimes...
Wonder how that works. ![]()
Edited by Euodiachloris on Dec 12th 2018 at 2:33:52 PM
"It’s worth emphasizing that the exact language of the Senate bill hasn’t been released to the public yet. McConnell this morning mentioned some “improvements” to the legislation – apparently made to garner greater Republican support
" doesn't sound like a good omen to me.
>If a proverb proves contradictory is it worth listening to?
Without a doubt. Life has many tradeoffs. Proverbs that appear contradictory may be expressing aspects of your tradeoff options. This is especially true when they are expressed in conjunction.
Edited by Soban on Dec 12th 2018 at 10:35:47 AM
If you just ignore them yes, but if you aggressively deplatform and suppress their activists then they can wither at the vine.
Debates will not defeat them, that will just move the Overton Window closer to their values.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Dec 12th 2018 at 10:51:58 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangAt the federal level, probably not as high as one might hope. I don't think an incoming President wants the optics of having their immediate predecessor arrested in the middle of the peaceful transition of power. Once Trump's out of office, it'll be easy to declare "Damage already done" and just let it be one of the many white-collar crimes where nobody goes to jail because laws only exist to punish the poor.
If Trump actually makes it to the end of his Presidency unimpeached, going after him for crimes will probably become the states' domain if it's not abandoned entirely. It's a different story if he's actually impeached for crimes, however.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 12th 2018 at 8:56:40 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I still don’t see a very high likelihood of there being a peaceful transition of power, Trump won’t accept loosing, he will insist that he won until the secret service drag him out by force.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran

Trump gushes about Breitbart because Breitbart does the same for him. He's a narcissist.
That alone doesn't make him alt-right per se. Not that it makes him any less loathsome of a human being.
Edited by M84 on Dec 12th 2018 at 1:10:54 AM
Disgusted, but not surprised