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TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#264051: Dec 11th 2018 at 10:39:56 AM

It would seem we are front row spectators to the slow, ungainly demise of the Republican Party.

It would be tragic if it weren't so richly deserved.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264052: Dec 11th 2018 at 10:43:57 AM

[up][up]Only partly. There are still going to be around 3000 troops or so through the end of January.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#264054: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:01:32 AM

Whatever, Time. We're not forgetting that you made Trump person of the year in 2016, asshats. You're basically awarding the title to victims of your previous pick.

Edited by Larkmarn on Dec 11th 2018 at 2:02:33 PM

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#264055: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:05:00 AM

To be fair, Person of the Year is supposed to be someone who made a huge impact. It’s not necessarily an endorsement.

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#264056: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:07:42 AM

Times deliberately made their cover of Trump so that the M in their title was on top of Trump's head to give him red devil horns.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264057: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:08:03 AM

Hitler was a person of the year, it's safe to say that it's purely about significance and need not represent kudos from Times.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#264058: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:08:32 AM

I just don't like that they were stroking his ego right after the win. It's not necessarily an endorsement, but it's impossible for it not to be perceived as such.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#264059: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:15:22 AM

44 Ex-Senators wrote an op-ed to the current Senate, telling them to defend Democracy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-are-former-senators-the-senate-has-long-stood-in-defense-of-democracy--and-must-again/2018/12/10/3adfbdea-fca1-11e8-ad40-cdfd0e0dd65a_story.html

Dear Senate colleagues,

As former members of the U.S. Senate, Democrats and Republicans, it is our shared view that we are entering a dangerous period, and we feel an obligation to speak up about serious challenges to the rule of law, the Constitution, our governing institutions and our national security.

We are on the eve of the conclusion of special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation and the House’s commencement of investigations of the president and his administration. The likely convergence of these two events will occur at a time when simmering regional conflicts and global power confrontations continue to threaten our security, economy and geopolitical stability.

It is a time, like other critical junctures in our history, when our nation must engage at every level with strategic precision and the hand of both the president and the Senate.

We are at an inflection point in which the foundational principles of our democracy and our national security interests are at stake, and the rule of law and the ability of our institutions to function freely and independently must be upheld.

During our service in the Senate, at times we were allies and at other times opponents, but never enemies. We all took an oath swearing allegiance to the Constitution. Whatever united or divided us, we did not veer from our unwavering and shared commitment to placing our country, democracy and national interest above all else.

At other critical moments in our history, when constitutional crises have threatened our foundations, it has been the Senate that has stood in defense of our democracy. Today is once again such a time.

Regardless of party affiliation, ideological leanings or geography, as former members of this great body, we urge current and future senators to be steadfast and zealous guardians of our democracy by ensuring that partisanship or self-interest not replace national interest.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 11th 2018 at 12:17:07 PM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#264060: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:16:20 AM

There's a movie quote I love from My Fellow Americans.

"I was TIME magazine's person of the year."

"So was Hitler!"

"But not twice!"

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Dec 11th 2018 at 11:45:40 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264061: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:18:10 AM

That's hilarious [lol]

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#264062: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:34:59 AM

[up][up][up] Interesting that the handful of Republican Senators to sign off on it mostly come from blue or libertarian-leaning states.

Edited by AlleyOop on Dec 11th 2018 at 2:35:11 PM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264063: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:35:01 AM

I found a truly enlightening article, it has filled me with euphoria and I have to share that feeling with all of you.

Biden Should Run on a Unity Ticket With Romney

I shouldn't have to explain what's wrong with this glorious delusion, a unity ticket is an absolutely terrible idea that would please no-one and I highly doubt Biden is dumb enough to consider it.

Still, I have to respect the sheer hackery of the author. Well played.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#264064: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:38:39 AM

Former Senators. Former. Ex. Retiring. Always watch out for those words when a Republican politico says something critical about Trump.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#264065: Dec 11th 2018 at 11:41:36 AM

On a related note, the 538 podcast was listing likely 2020 candidates and when Biden came up, they qualified his likeliness to get the nomination on the condition that he has a much younger progressive running mate already at hand.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#264066: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:15:39 PM

Maybe the Progressive candidate can pick him.

"They've learned absolutely nothing from 2018 and I love it"

Remember that the Republican leadership actually doesnt care about their own constituents. They represent the oligarchs who fund them, and so long as Republican voters wont vote for Democrats over social issues, they feel safe.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#264067: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:21:34 PM

Biden needs to go away. Now. Yesterday. Last week. Go away!

Here’s a funny article which (correctly in my opinion) argues that Bernie should NOT RUN.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264068: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:28:34 PM

Remember that the Republican leadership actually doesnt care about their own constituents. They represent the oligarchs who fund them, and so long as Republican voters wont vote for Democrats over social issues, they feel safe.

Yes I know, that's why I love it.

They're morons who are stubbornly ignoring the losses their party experienced in 2018 and could later experience again in 2020, it's not just that they're indifferent to the will of the populace, they're actively stupid about it.

One could have that elitist motivation while still being smart/aware enough to realize that the current course just isn't working, but they're too invested and delusional for that.

Biden needs to go away. Now. Yesterday. Last week. Go away!

Agreed, he's just from a different era and really needs to step back for younger candidates to have their own opportunity. We shouldn't be a Gerontocracy.

Here’s a funny article which (correctly in my opinion) argues that Bernie should NOT RUN.

I couldn't agree more, he's done very well for himself and I can respect that but he's just too old and IMO problematic. I'd much rather have a younger Progressive face who I can trust to properly diversify their attention instead of being a glorified single-issue-wonk.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#264069: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:31:16 PM

Why did so many people get behind Bernie Sanders in 2016? Besides the fact that he was the only candidate offering policy prescriptions that matched the scale of our nation’s biggest problems, his appeal was also rooted in the fact that he clearly believed in a set of principles. Unlike most nakedly ambitious presidential contenders, he seemed to actually be concerned with trying to solve the problems that he spoke about—including, above all, the growing inequality that underlies almost everything else. His campaign was a way to start a movement to improve the country; the movement was not in service only of his own career.

I can't tell if this is supposed to be satirical or serious, and that matters because if it's supposed to be serious, I don't think I agree with it.

Edited by LSBK on Dec 11th 2018 at 2:33:23 PM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#264070: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:31:17 PM

[up] I wasn't necessarily thinking of Germany. I just think that it would be good if the health care cost would be separate from taxes. Because that would make it harder for the Republicans to defund the health care system.

It's not like a strongly-regulated private market is any more difficult for Republicans to screw up than single payer. Arguably the most important part is that single-payer is harder to get rid of subtly.

That and it might have better luck counteracting absurd healthcare prices.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#264071: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:32:14 PM

> Biden needs to go away. Now. Yesterday. Last week. Go away!

go away to where you cant just send him somewhere without specifying

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#264072: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:34:08 PM

Send him a part of the country that isn't snowed in, flooded, or on fire?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#264073: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:34:18 PM

I don't think Biden should run, but he's definitely useful in the elder statesman fashion, as an attack dog and talking head who can say what he wants without risk of alienating anyone.

And the Democrats would be stupid to not roll out the Obamas during the next election.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#264074: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:36:43 PM

I can't tell if this is supposed to be satirical or serious, and that matters because if it's supposed to be serious, I don't think I agree with it.

I don't agree with it either, but considering that the article is clearly written from a pro-Sanders POV (which makes it all the more useful) I think some questionable bits were inevitable. What ultimately matters is the message which IMO is a very true and necessary one.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#264075: Dec 11th 2018 at 12:38:13 PM

> Send him a part of the country that isn't snowed in, flooded, or on fire?

by process of elimination I'm sending him to Washington DC as it's none of the above

(obviously I'm j o k i n g)

Edited by Ultimatum on Dec 11th 2018 at 12:39:02 PM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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