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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I already linked to an explanation why the idea using the Holocaust as an argument against gun control is idiotic (not that you really need it once you summon up what they are on about this way), here is one explaining why the Nazis were in no shape "socialists".
Current Affairs has a rather thorough takedown of Ben Shapiro that also neatly describes how intellectual weak he is, The Cool Kids Philsopher
If anyone's interested I would strongly recommend them reading it, it should thoroughly disabuse anyone of the notion that Ben Shapiro has any connection to knowledge or intellectual honesty.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangMy estimation for the Times just went down several notches. They wrote really THAT about him? Have they ever listened to the nonsense he talks?
I mean, I guess it is a little bit easier to spot it if you are actually from one of those countries from which he takes painful history and then distorts it, but the nonsense he talks about racism alone should be a red flag. As should his style of argumentation. He has never meet a strawman he wasn't ready to built, I don't think that he even cares was the arguments regarding a topic actually ARE.
Crossposted to the Middle East Thread:
Intercepts Solidify C.I.A. Assessment That Saudi Prince Ordered Khashoggi Killing [1]
The adviser, Saud al-Qahtani, topped the list of Saudis who were targeted by American sanctions last month over their suspected involvement in the killing of Mr. Khashoggi. American intelligence agencies have evidence that Prince Salman and Mr. Qahtani had 11 exchanges that roughly coincided with the hit team’s advance into the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul, where Mr. Khashoggi was murdered.
The exchanges are a key piece of information that helped solidify the C.I.A.’s assessment that the crown prince ordered the killing of Mr. Khashoggi, a Washington Post columnist and Virginia resident who had been critical of the Saudi government.
“This is the smoking gun, or at least the smoking phone call,” said Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. official now at the Brookings Institution. “There is only one thing they could possibly be talking about. This shows that the crown prince was witting of premeditated murder.”
Mr. Qahtani has been one of Prince Mohammed’s closest advisers. When the head of the hit team, Maher Abdulaziz Mutreb, was recorded by Turkish intelligence saying “tell your boss” that the team had carried out the mission, he was believed by American intelligence agencies to have been communicating with Mr. Qahtani.
People briefed on the intelligence said they believed that the 11 exchanges between Prince Mohammed and Mr. Qahtani could very well have been the time when the aide shared the news.
Current and former officials insisted that while the communications are suggestive and reinforce the intelligence agency’s conclusions about the culpability of the crown prince, they are not the kind of definitive, direct evidence that President Trump has suggested would be needed to convince him that Prince Mohammed ordered the killing.
Such evidence, the current and former officials said, is rarely collected, and the C.I.A. and other agencies often make their conclusions based on imperfect information. The C.I.A. has told lawmakers that it has medium to high confidence that Prince Mohammed ordered the killing. Medium to high certainty is a level short of high confidence, and demonstrates that the agency lacks a recording in which the crown prince orders the killing.
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There's a reason the guy pretty much became a meme. For all his bluster about facts and such, he tends to mainly debate people who themselves aren't that skilled at debating.
Because that's what debate is when people like him are involved - it's all about rhetorical trickery and making yourself look "more rational" than the other side, no matter how stupid your logic is. It's about looking good to your fan base.
It's probably no coincidence that Ben Shapiro fans are usually also big into the lobster guy.
Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Dec 3rd 2018 at 4:44:03 PM
We learn from history that we do not learn from history

Ben Shapiro's also a snake oil salesman supporter. Just look up Dawn to Dusk pills sometime.
There are many, many reasons not to listen to Ben Shapiro.
Edited by M84 on Dec 3rd 2018 at 5:55:14 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised