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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#262876: Nov 26th 2018 at 8:51:48 AM

The thing is that Putin may not have the resources to fight NATO but he has the will to wage wars of conquest. Also, how to use modern small units far more effectively than large armies thanks to advances in technology as well as changes in politics.

He just needs the rest of the world to go, "Yeah, it's wrong but do we really care enough about Estonia to go to war over it?"

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 26th 2018 at 8:53:02 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#262877: Nov 26th 2018 at 8:57:51 AM

[up][up] We’ll probably see them again in Ukraine very soon.

They should have sent a poet.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#262879: Nov 26th 2018 at 9:30:53 AM

[up] These guys.

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#262880: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:01:57 AM

It’s important to remember that Russia is acting from a position of Weakness. The economy is failing, and they are an objectively falling power. The reason they are using Assymetric Active Measures style tactics, is because of that weakness.

Doesn’t make them any less dangerous, but it’s still important to keep in mind for perspective.

Bense Since: Aug, 2010
#262881: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:25:05 AM

For those who were curious, Mia Love, the first Republican woman African-American in Congress, has conceded her loss this morning. Ben McAdams will be the sole Democrat in Utah's congressional delegation (4 representatives and 2 senators).

Love said that McAdams had stooped to making a "false case" against her during the election, and that Utah politics were likely to be nastier in the future as a result. She also took a last jab at Trump, saying that in Trump's world there are "no real relationships — just transactions. That is an insufficient way to implement your service and policy."

She said Washington politicians in general have a "transactional" relationship with minorities. "It's transactional. It's not personal."

Edited by Bense on Nov 26th 2018 at 11:33:25 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#262882: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:28:44 AM

[up][up] I know, but the countries they target are even weaker.

[up] And? Is she right? I mean, she is a Republican, no matter what her gender or skin colour is, if she voted along party lines, she was part of the nasty anyway.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#262883: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:32:01 AM

Everyone keeps talking about what a poor state Russia is in but the fact is that the strength of countries is always a matter of comparisons.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#262884: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:34:46 AM

[up] That’s why Putin’s Russia wants to knock down Western Liberal Democracy. The only power they can gain is relative to the other nations around it.

Their worst nightmare would be for the US to get behind a coordinated multi-national effort to deal with the Russian Assymetric Warfare though NATO.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 26th 2018 at 1:45:52 PM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#262885: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:40:07 AM

"I mean, she is a Republican, no matter what her gender or skin colour is, if she voted along party lines, she was part of the nasty anyway."

She voted with Trump 96% of the time. About the only thing they differed on was sanctioning Russia.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#262886: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:44:07 AM

So that leaves what, a pair of races (one in California, which could go either way, and one in New York which is almost certainly going Republican, albeit narrowly) left to be called?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#262887: Nov 26th 2018 at 10:46:01 AM

There is the Mississippi Senate election (tomorrow?) but that one's probably a Republican hold.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#262888: Nov 26th 2018 at 11:02:41 AM

Corsi (a Roger Stone associate) has refused to sign a plea deal, over charges that he lied to the Special Counsel and/or the Grand Jury.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/26/politics/jerome-corsi-plea-deal-robert-mueller/index.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#262889: Nov 26th 2018 at 11:09:12 AM

[up][up][up][up] Well, in this case I doubt that the Democrat who replaces her can be much worse.

[up][up] Who knows...Hyde-Smith didn't really make friends lately, and if the Democrats push for it, their voters will be most likely more motivated to actually go to the ballot. There is always the chance for an upset. After all, there is no telling that those who voted for the other republican will come out for her.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#262890: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:06:06 PM

She voted with Trump 96% of the time. About the only thing they differed on was sanctioning Russia.

Exactly this, her "parting shots" were nothing but cowardly virtue signalling.

'Moderate' Republicans such as Flake or Love will happily get into bed with the fascists if it means that they get their tax cuts and pro-business policy, they're all style no substance.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#262891: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:08:21 PM

Granting voting rights to delegates of U.S. territories and the District of Columbia.

Can they do that?

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#262892: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:16:23 PM

[up][up] Honestly, I'm pretty most of the actual moderates left the party in disgust at this point, pushing the Overton Window of what actually constitutes a moderate Republican even further to the Right.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 26th 2018 at 3:16:57 PM

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#262893: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:16:36 PM

@Ramidal: Congress could, sure.

Edited by DeMarquis on Nov 26th 2018 at 3:17:05 PM

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#262894: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:22:15 PM

Honestly, I'm pretty most of the actual moderates left the party in disgust at this point, pushing the Overton Window of what actually constitutes a moderate Republican even further to the Right.

This is correct, at this point, the Republican Party is solidly Trumpian and thus true moderates are no longer affiliated. We just have fascists and their sycophants.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 26th 2018 at 3:22:23 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#262895: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:29:35 PM

And there is no tolerance for non-Trump supporters in many parts of the Republican electorate, see South Carolina's 1st district's primary this year and notice how many Trump-critical Republicans either are no longer in office or are retiring.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#262896: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:33:08 PM

[up] Which only serves to make the party even more insular and have even less of a grasp on reality.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 26th 2018 at 3:33:49 PM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#262897: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:36:29 PM

The party is not entirely made up of hardcore Trumpists yet. What it does contain is a captive audience of Fox News viewers who have been conditioned to reject the Democrats as a reflex and blithely ignore the stench wafting out of their own party.

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#262898: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:39:45 PM

[up] Yeah, the mislead and deluded also make up a significant portion of their base. I'm honestly not sure what to do about that.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 26th 2018 at 3:40:53 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#262899: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:49:28 PM

[up][up] Show me Republicans which actually vote against Trump and we can talk.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#262900: Nov 26th 2018 at 12:49:56 PM

I can't think of anything you can do while FOX still has such a massive hold on cable news.

Oh really when?

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