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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
...universities don’t owe anyone a platform. Nobody “owes” you a platform. That’s not censorship.
I am not currently giving a speech on racism in higher education. If I demand to give one at my law school, are they obligated to give me an official event? If another student wants to give a speech about how great eugenics is, has he been censored if the law school says no? Are newspapers committing censorship by not publishing every letter to the editor?
Edited by wisewillow on Nov 24th 2018 at 3:00:49 PM
Unless the Government does it, it's not censorship. And the US Government isn't doing it. So calling it censorship is meaningless.
Now if the Federal or State Governments prevented someone from talking at a Government Office or at a Government Event, that's flat-out illegal. But not at a University, School, TV Show, Radio or anything else which is non-Governmental (and most are non-Governmental).
So no, no one is owed a platform to talk in such circumstances, and they can be told to STFU, STFD or GTFO. Simple as that.
Edited by TechPriest90 on Nov 24th 2018 at 3:04:59 PM
I hold the secrets of the machine.The definition of the word "Censorship", like the definition of so many other words, has been eviscerated by the internet. In gaming fandom, it's "the removal of any kind of content from a Japanese to an American release, no matter how inconsequential or who demanded it", in politics it's "not being able to say literally whatever I want without consequence".
i'm tired, my friendor why it was removed for that matter. But yeah, Censorship and the related boogeyman of the world going into a 1984-level dystopia has been used and abused to the point of meaninglessness. It might as well be a dogwhistle for a "wahh they took away the fanservice" or "wahh, they won't let me spread hate speech" temper tantrum at this point on the internet.
Edited by MorningStar1337 on Nov 24th 2018 at 12:52:59 PM
Well, the question is what policy publically funded universities should follow.
They have to follow the goverment ones, which is why you get so many Nazi speeches at universities where no one wants them there.... Not even the staff.
Public universities have to give them a stage because there considered a government institution, Private universities don't.
Except its never that, it is always whining about them toning down the fan service, or removing things that are just hate.
Edited by Imca on Nov 24th 2018 at 1:14:21 AM
The main crux about Sony's new policy is that they are making the developers censor shit even if its not being released outside of Japan, which IS dumb.
Watch SymphogearIt is fairly easy. An University is a place for education. It is not a place for propaganda. And despite what the far right loves to claim, it is really not difficult to figure out what is what, nor are facts in any way a matter of interpretation, not even in terms of history. If someone is cherrypicking facts, he has no business to talk at any university, period.
That has nothing to do with censorship.
Edited by MarqFJA on Nov 24th 2018 at 2:17:34 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Interestingly, sovereign citizens are considered the number one threat to LE Os in the US. They’re armed to the teeth and usually have no issue with shooting first and asking questions never, so police always use extreme caution when dealing with them.
Edited by archonspeaks on Nov 24th 2018 at 3:31:23 AM
They should have sent a poet.![]()
Yep. It’s the catch all term for anyone in the profession.
It’s actually well known in law enforcement circles that white nationalists, right wing extremists, sovereign citizens and their like are incredibly dangerous, for the sole fact that they’re way more likely to be armed than your average person.
They should have sent a poet.The problem is the alt right is marketing themselves as the new counter culture (which I find laughable) and as therefor dangerous and that's why they're being "censored" and de-platformed. And they're not wrong, technically, but they use it to look good in front of their main audience.
De-platforming also refers to getting people kicked off of Youtube and Twitter or other social media spaces. Which, as private entities that have their own rules regarding things like harassment, are frequently entitled to kick anyone off for any reason they please as that kind of thing is usually explicitly stated in their terms of service agreements. Such as what happened to Alex Jones fairly recently. Even though the rumor is they did it because he insulted like the CEO of Youtube or something, they cited the numerous harassment, lies, and slander he's committed in his time on the various platforms. (Frankly I don't think that blatant lies ought to be covered by free speech laws, considering that his lies outright led to at least one family having to move because they got harassed over this fucking shit.) Frankly, letting people like this on their platform is a bad look for a company, which is why they include clauses that let them kick you off for any reason they like.
I actually afked a bit ago while in the middle of the post so this feels slightly out of syng but whatever.

Outside of the government, there is also the organisation (I think Obama is supporting it) which is working on using every venue possible to make voting fairer.