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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#262526: Nov 21st 2018 at 7:11:36 PM

I hope Q turns out to be Mike Pence, and we learn that he was even crazier and more obsessed than we already knew he was. Like, it's all still bullshit, but he totally believes his own lies.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 21st 2018 at 8:12:18 AM

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#262527: Nov 21st 2018 at 7:16:11 PM

[up]Let's hope not, because that would mean he's just another Trump.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#262528: Nov 21st 2018 at 7:26:17 PM

If it was him, then at least we could boot him. He’s already a True Believer in all the worst crap Trump believes.

Edited by wisewillow on Nov 21st 2018 at 10:26:26 AM

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#262529: Nov 21st 2018 at 7:51:11 PM

Yeah, I realized right after I posted that I REALLY don't want it to be Mike Pence, because regardless of how true it is, it would give the Qanon bullshit so much legitimacy that it would never die as a conspiracy theory.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#262530: Nov 21st 2018 at 7:53:37 PM

I'm probably going to regret saying this, but I don't think even Pence is so deluded that he believed that a "red tsunami" was coming. He and the rest of the GOP were expecting to lose, and they did.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#262531: Nov 21st 2018 at 8:43:30 PM

Though I am curious if it or any other conspiracy theory had crossed the threshold into religious dogma.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#262532: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:22:59 PM

[up]I think they are all like that, tbh.

Disgusted, but not surprised
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#262533: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:25:54 PM

Autism = vaccines is another conspiracy theory that is doing way more damage.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Imca (Veteran)
#262534: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:27:43 PM

[up] Autisim is just a specific flavor of anti-vax, reality is its just "vaxines are unnatural and therefor bad"

The anti-vaxers back home pushed for them causing nerve damage and permanent pain instead (and even sucessfully got some baned)

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#262535: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:31:15 PM

Conspiracy Theory kind of is religious Dogma, in some ways. Contradictions don't matter, for example, as they're simply the "other" (be it the Government or Satan) trying to deceive.

TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#262536: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:31:15 PM

Anything that makes the Far-Right butthurt over reality makes me smile. Seeing them whine as they lose - ah, there's few sweeter sensations.

Still, I'm betting that the whole "QAnon" conspiracy theory will be forgotten the moment Trump loses the Presidency - much the same way the 9/11 Conspiracies kind of died out once Bush left office.

Edited by TechPriest90 on Nov 21st 2018 at 12:36:29 PM

I hold the secrets of the machine.
Imca (Veteran)
#262537: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:37:35 PM

[up] ... You sweet summer child.

They haven't died out since bush left office, just last year (or was it two now) they actualy used crowd funding to gather thousands of dollars to try and re-enact 9/11 with scale models to prove that it didn't actualy happen.

....

Until they got shut down by the crowdfunding platform.

raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#262538: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:51:42 PM

[up]

For the record, as a civil engineering student, I can say without a doubt that the whole "steel can't melt at that temperature" argument is a load of bull.

Metal doesn't need to reach melting point to lose its tensile or compressive strength and in the furnace conditions provoked by the attacks it definitely lost its capacity of holding the weight of the upper structure of the towers, not to mention that the collapse of one tower probably deteriorated the foundations of the other, hastening it's inevitable fall as a result.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Imca (Veteran)
#262539: Nov 21st 2018 at 9:54:12 PM

Oh I know, it doesn't mater that it cant melt the steel, the steel lost a good 70% of its strength at the temperature, and could no longer hold the weight.

These people are just 100% dumb asses.

Edit: Knowing some engineering, scale models wouldn't even work right AFIAK, because due to square cube law they wouldn't be under the same stresses as full sized towers.... even if you got the materials and other conditions right.

Edited by Imca on Nov 21st 2018 at 9:55:48 AM

raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#262540: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:05:24 PM

Yes, also have luck explaining to them the concept of Moment of Inertia and how is that affected by the slightest change of dimensions, let alone huge ones.

Edited by raziel365 on Nov 21st 2018 at 10:05:47 AM

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#262541: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:09:57 PM

After listening to The Last Podcast on the Left's episode on Flat Earthers, I have no doubt whatsoever that people can dismiss any and all information they want to, no matter how factual, if it conflicts with their desired reality.

[down] Sent you a PM with a link.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 21st 2018 at 11:17:51 AM

Imca (Veteran)
#262542: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:11:15 PM

Mind sharing that one? Flat earthers make me laugh because there probaly some of the least harmfull of the stupidity, and it offers a nice change of pace from fucking over peoples lifes.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#262543: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:18:43 PM

Human beings are very good at willful ignorance. That's why it's futile to convince a conspiracy theorist that they are wrong by using facts. You'd be better off instead confronting them on why they need the conspiracy to be real.

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#262544: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:20:01 PM

[up] Said Last Podcast episode suggests that part of it is a case of I Just Want to Be Special that the knowledge you're a microscopic speck upon a microscopic speck absolutely does not provide.


Edit Re: Denying reality, to borrow from the LP episode:
Marcus Parks: One very frustrated documentary filmmaker, quoted in a New Yorker article about Flat Earthers, sums it up perfectly.
Henry Zabrowski (reading the quote): You ask someone if their car is blue and they say 'No'. So you say "Okay, what color is it, then?". They say "I don't know, but it sure as hell isn't blue."
Marcus Parks: This is the sort of logic that defines the Flat Earth movement.
The same rationale can probably be applied to more than a few conspiracy theories out there.

[down] A story the LP hosts share in the Flat Earth episode is about an event at a Flat Earth convention where the audience are asked multiple questions affirmatively that are revealed to be questions that indicate whether or not you're in a cult.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 21st 2018 at 11:28:50 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#262545: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:21:15 PM

Which coincidentally or not is the same rationale a lot of people have for joining cults. Hence why I think conspiracy theories and religious dogma are not so different.

Disgusted, but not surprised
FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare
#262546: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:41:45 PM

I'll just mention that the Flat Earth movement has enough followers to crowd fund rockets for its arguable leader to "test" his theories in.

Wouldn't strapping himself to several weather balloons like the Redbull jumper be more effective? [lol]

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#262547: Nov 21st 2018 at 10:57:39 PM

[up]

Also among Hughes’s plans — aside from trying to get to space — is to run for governor.

“This is no joke,” he told the AP. “I want to do it.”

I really didn't want an answer to the question "Who would be an even worse governor of California than Schwarzenegger or Reagan?"

Edited by M84 on Nov 22nd 2018 at 2:57:58 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#262548: Nov 21st 2018 at 11:26:28 PM

Damn...Georgia 6th has been called and the result stands, the Republican candidate won with only 50.1 to 49.9. This really angers me, because without the systemic voter suppression in the state, I bet it would have been the other way around.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#262549: Nov 21st 2018 at 11:28:03 PM

Still, even with it came down to a 0.2% difference.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#262550: Nov 21st 2018 at 11:30:01 PM

[up] Still, this way this is most likely another seat which has been robbed from the Democrats. (And it is only a 0.1% difference)

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 21st 2018 at 11:30:52 AM


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