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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#261976: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:32:00 PM

One should never underestimate the Governor races either. Those were some really important states they got.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#261977: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:36:10 PM

Democrats got seven governorships, right?

Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
#261978: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:40:23 PM

edit: scratch that, seven, forgot MI.

IL, KS, MI, WI, NM, ME, NV

Edited by Cris_Meyers on Nov 15th 2018 at 2:42:35 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#261979: Nov 15th 2018 at 12:40:36 PM

From Wikipedia:

Democrats defended every seat they had controlled prior to the election and picked up eight governorships. They won open seats in Michigan, Nevada, Kansas, New Mexico, Kansas, and Maine, and defeated Republican incumbents in Illinois and Wisconsin.

Five chambers—the Colorado Senate, New Hampshire House, New Hampshire Senate, Minnesota House, Maine Senate, and New York State Senate—flipped from Republican to Democratic control. The Connecticut Senate went from being evenly divided to a Democratic majority. Democrats also broke Republican legislative supermajorities in North Carolina, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and gained a legislative supermajority in both houses of the California and Oregon legislatures. Republicans gained control of one chamber, the Alaska House of Representatives.

Democrats gained a "trifecta" (control of the governor's office and both legislative chambers) in Colorado, Illinois, Connecticut, Maine, New Mexico, New York, and Nevada. Republicans lost trifectas in Kansas, Michigan, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire, but gained a trifecta in Alaska.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 15th 2018 at 2:42:31 PM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#261980: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:03:31 PM

The Republicans as a whole won't primary Trump, because we know for damn sure that if Trump is primaried, he'll run as an independent and take his base with him, which would mean a walk for the Democratic candidate. It would require the majority of the party to go in and cast their primary vote knowing that they're falling on their sword to free the party. And aside from the unlikeliness of that, a significant portion of the Party does support Trump.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#261981: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:07:51 PM

Isn't Trump's approval among registered Republicans above 80%?

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#261982: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:10:52 PM

I'm not entirely certain he would run as an independent; there's probably a sizeable part of him that wants to find a way out of the whole 'Politics' thing that doesn't involve losing face. And I doubt he'd believe that running as a independent would get him a win or be a good way of saving face.

But, really, what matters isn't whether or not he'd actually do not, but whether or not a significant number of Republicans believe that he'd do it.

Edited by Gilphon on Nov 15th 2018 at 4:11:29 AM

Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#261983: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:16:04 PM

I hadn't thought much on it, but in the unlikely event of the GOP primary-ing him I think he'd certainly run as an Independent anyway just out of spite. We've seen how he reacts when he feels like his ego is bruised (which happens in a stiff breeze, really). Giving two middle fingers to the GOP and running as an independent in the 2020 election is right up his alley.

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#261984: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:17:12 PM

Nah, I think he'd shoot off tweet after tweet about how the primary is rigged before winning it anyway.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#261985: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:41:33 PM

[up][up][up]; [up][up]

See, that's the brilliance in the strategy. He loses the Primary (due to it being "rigged", of course), then goes Independent and splits the vote with the GOP candidate, but comes out ahead of said candidate, which allows him to say "See, if you'd just followed me, you would've won!"

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
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A procrastination in of itself
#261986: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:44:45 PM

Nah if he looses the primary he then runs as an independent and claims that he would have won but Republicans suppressed his voters and Democrats commited voter fraud, thus he’s the actual winner.

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ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#261987: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:51:15 PM

[up]

At which point he goes on to embody Life Imitates Art by saying what George H.W. Bush did in "Two Bad Neighbors", claiming that he only needed four years to get everything done he wanted to, simply because he was just that effective.

Edited by ironballs16 on Nov 15th 2018 at 4:57:47 AM

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#261988: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:54:52 PM

See now, do you actually think Trump would do something smart?

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#261989: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:56:21 PM

Not only will Trump not get primaried in 2020, there is a good chance he'll win a second term.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#261990: Nov 15th 2018 at 1:57:49 PM

Not only will Trump not get primaried in 2020, there is a good chance he'll win a second term.

There is the possibility that he will win a second term, it's extremely preemptive to say that it's a good or bad chance.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#261991: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:02:29 PM

No it isnt. As long as the employment figures look positive, he has an excellent chance. Mind you, a lot can happen to the economy in two years, and a trade war with China could sink it, but right now I think it's his to lose.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#261992: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:05:16 PM

No it isnt. As long as the employment figures look positive, he has an excellent chance. Mind you, a lot can happen to the economy in two years, and a trade war with China could sink it, but right now I think it's his to lose.

I don't agree with your statement of faith, Trump barely won against a deeply flawed candidate in 2016 and recently despite the excellent economy the Republicans still got slaughtered in the midterms.

Trump has a very real chance of winning but I don't agree with your certainty, he may or he may not but at this juncture, there is hardly enough data to predict one way or another.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#261993: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:06:09 PM

Let's hope there's a good contender against Trump in 2020, if not, I dread to think how will the USA will end up in 2024.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#261994: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:11:08 PM

Mind you, a lot can happen to the economy in two years

A few financial analysts have been predicting that a recession is coming in late 2019 to early 2020.

Can Trump win? Certainly, he shouldn't be underestimated. But he is a historically unpopular president and he only won against Clinton by a slim margin in a few states. He's pretty vincible, really.

raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#261995: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:16:02 PM

The issue that, as an outsider, I see about that is that there are not many candidates that can contend with Trump in the presidential race.

I mean, Hillary is not an option, Bernie is too old, Jeb is not charismatic enough and I'm not sure what Cruz is doing right now. Obama could try another shot at the presidency, but even then it would be a steep road.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#261996: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:18:55 PM

Obama can't, he served two terms and that's the maximum limit.

Oh really when?
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#261997: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:21:36 PM

As mentioned before, Kamala Harris seems like she's interested in preparing herself for the candidacy, and outside the Unicorn Brigade I'm sure a fair amount of voters are willing to accept whoever the Democrats put forward as long as they don't have the baggage of Hillary or seem otherwise execrable.

Edited by AlleyOop on Nov 15th 2018 at 5:22:11 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#261998: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:22:13 PM

The issue that, as an outsider, I see about that is that there are not many candidates that can contend with Trump in the presidential race.

I mean, Hillary is not an option, Bernie is too old, Jeb is not charismatic enough and I'm not sure what Cruz is doing right now. Obama could try another shot at the presidency, but even then it would be a steep road.

Gillibrand, Harris, Booker, Warren, and probably many more.

There are absolutely potential candidates come 2020.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 15th 2018 at 5:22:51 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#261999: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:27:03 PM

[up]

Didn't knew of them until now, honest. Maybe things aren't as grim as I thought.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#262000: Nov 15th 2018 at 2:28:17 PM

It's not like the good economy prevented the democrats from winning the popular vote by about 7 percent this election. Sometimes, people are just forced to look beyond their own condition and ask if it's the road they want the world to be headed. It can happen again in 2020.

Life is unfair...

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