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AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#261676: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:09:12 PM

[up] To add to the racism fest that's been happening recently, this charming video shows the response to the backlash against the Senatorial candidate in Mississippi who joked about going to a public hanging. (In summary: Actual whataboutism using "the African American children that have been aborted")

Edit: This is a hell of a pagetopper.

Edit 2: [down] I hate to be the annoying person who goes around telling people things are offensive, but maybe we shouldn't imply that mental illness is causing racism.

Edit 3: [down][down] [awesome][awesome][awesome]

Edited by AzurePaladin on Nov 13th 2018 at 10:40:45 AM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#261677: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:15:40 PM

Jesus, how absolutely disgusting. One can only imagine the mental defectives that hear that shit and say "Hell yeah, I'm voting for that guy."

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#261678: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:37:57 PM

Please don’t call them that - it’s frankly rather ableist. One shouldn’t equate mental illness with having awful beliefs.

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#261679: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:45:46 PM

[up][awesome] Yeah, this. As a “mentally defective” person (chronic depression and anxiety) myself, could you not blame mental illness or disability for bigotry?

Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#261680: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:48:23 PM

Yes. Please don't give them that excuse either. Example - my sister tries to excuse her son's red pill white supremacist bs on him being autistic, depressed, anxious, and "going through a difficult time", when the real reason is that he's just trash.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#261681: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:49:41 PM

[up][up]Same. Seeing as I've got autism/aspergers, I'm also 'mentally defective'. Techinally speaking. Of course, God knows I don't think of myself as such, and I'm sure most people who have some sort of disability or another feel the same way. So it's probally not a good idea to call anyone that if you can help it. Nevermind labeling it as an excuse for bigotry.

Edited by kkhohoho on Nov 13th 2018 at 9:50:48 AM

Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#261682: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:54:09 PM

[up] Oh, sorry, everyone. I've used that phrase for a while, and I've never been called out or anything like that for it, so I had no idea. My sincere apologies.

TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#261683: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:56:03 PM

Unless someone classifies "being an self-centred, sociopathic asshole" as a Mental Illness, it's kind of silly to say violence/racism/bigotry/extremism/x-phobia is called by mentally-ill individuals.

Edited by TechPriest90 on Nov 13th 2018 at 10:57:27 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#261684: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:57:26 PM

Honest question, is sociopathy considered a mental illness? I've always been fuzzy on that.

Though I doubt the majority of people we're talking about would be considered sociopaths either way.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 13th 2018 at 9:57:44 AM

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#261685: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:57:42 PM

[up][up][up] Well, now you know. (^_^;; Just...please don't do it again. Technically, I'd fit in that framework as well, and I'd like to think I'm not that horrible a person.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Nov 13th 2018 at 10:57:50 AM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#261686: Nov 13th 2018 at 7:59:34 PM

[up][up]Not exactly. However, Antisocial Personality Disorder is, and it's similar to sociopathy in enough ways that people often confuse the two. But that's as close as you're gonna get.

Edited by kkhohoho on Nov 13th 2018 at 9:59:45 AM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#261687: Nov 13th 2018 at 8:02:24 PM

@LSBK: It is a mental illness, yes. It actually does impair someone's general ability to function and does cause sociopaths suffering in general. Keep in mind that sociopaths however, are not quite Always Chaotic Evil contrary to how they're universally portrayed. Sociopaths tend to be a bit more like Haruhi Suzamiya than the Joker IIRC.

It is worth noting though that sociopathy, antipersonality disorder, etc are usually not considered legal defenses, largely because of the above.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#261688: Nov 13th 2018 at 8:14:21 PM

Nowadays it's called (wikipedia link) Antisocial personality disorder. Most present day mental health professionals would probably refrain from calling people "sociopath" or "psychopath" anymore.

Edited by M84 on Nov 14th 2018 at 12:15:16 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#261690: Nov 13th 2018 at 8:19:34 PM

For the record, this is basically a perfect example of precisely how questioning/calling out hurtful language should go.

People identified/explained the issue, the original commenter reconsidered and sincerely apologized, and clarifying questions were discussed. smile

TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#261691: Nov 13th 2018 at 8:23:09 PM

Random aside, another one bites the dust. Jeff Denham (R, CA-10) just got ousted by Josh Harder. That's two left in California and five more nationwide.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Nov 13th 2018 at 8:24:32 AM

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#261692: Nov 13th 2018 at 8:28:43 PM

[up][up] Things like this are partially why I post here, in the end. If you're right, huzzah! If you're wrong, you learn something.

Of course, that doesn't apply to me, as I am always right. Even when I'm wrong, I'm right.

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#261693: Nov 13th 2018 at 8:38:03 PM

On the Republican Jesus video, some of the comments are gold:

"Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God and Tomahawk cruise missiles." John 3:36-ish

But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God... Lest they be the children of migrant invaders, for those must be separated from their parents and delivered to detention centers before being shipped back to whatever shithole country they came from: for of such is the kingdom of Trump.

For God so loved the world that He privatized it. - John 3:16, Great Again Version

For I was hungry and you cut food stamps, I was a stranger and you deported me, for I was sick and you denied me healthcare.

And GOP Jesus said When criticized or accused, deflect the blame onto your enemies. When that doesn’t work, create an international crisis and demonize foreigners.

Matthew 22:21 Don't render unto Caesar the things which belongs to Caesar. Instead put your money into an off shore account somewhere in the Cayman Islands so greedy old Caesar can't touch what belongs to you.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#261694: Nov 13th 2018 at 8:46:12 PM

GOP Jesus also wouldn't be whipping the moneychangers in the temple.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#261695: Nov 13th 2018 at 9:07:41 PM

Another Democrat victory - now that's worth knowing.

I think this song is oddly fitting, given the present situation globally.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#261696: Nov 13th 2018 at 9:13:36 PM

I don't know if a Socialist anthem quite shows the state of the world... (^_^;;

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#261697: Nov 13th 2018 at 9:35:31 PM

Probably not, but in light of the ongoing Democratic victories I feel comfortable saying this song reflects the party's feelings right now:

Pachylad (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#261698: Nov 13th 2018 at 10:46:35 PM

So as the new wave of Democrats are coming in, can someone tell me why some news outlets are currently (like this one) trying to spin Ocasio-Cortex as "leading climate change protests at Pelosi's office"?

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#261699: Nov 13th 2018 at 11:39:23 PM

Because a Democratic House divided by fighting is good for the GOP.

Trump has outright said the GOP may vote for Pelosi as Speaker if the Dems don't go full her, to spike them.

It's a shameless attempt at Divide and Conquer.

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Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#261700: Nov 14th 2018 at 12:31:52 AM

[up][up] I have no idea where the spin is there, she is organizing a climate change protest outside Pelosi's office and news media are reporting on it. Let's not demonize for reporting the truth please.

By the way, I fully support her in doing so, given how the issue seems to have been put on hold for the last 10 years and leading politicians seem to only want to take action if it's reaching the backdoor of their beach house.

Life is unfair...

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