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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Seems like a swell guy. I think he's going to have a bit of an issue convincing anyone to back him, considering he seems to hate a lot of Progressive values. Hell, he'd probably get further running AS a Republican.
Edited by AzurePaladin on Nov 12th 2018 at 7:58:17 AM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerThe Orange Doofus is already demanding a stop to the recounts in Florida, with the usual side order of outlandish claims. A quote of his tweet:
Edited by MarqFJA on Nov 12th 2018 at 4:00:50 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2018/11/12/day-662/
Day 662: Infected.
1/ Trump called for Florida to suspend its legally required recount and declare the Republican candidates for Senate and governor the winners of their respective races. Without evidence, Trump claimed that "many ballots are missing or forged," and that "an honest vote count is no longer possible – ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!" In the governor's race, unofficial results showed Ron De Santis leading Democratic mayor, Andrew Gillum, by 0.41%, and in the Senate race, Republican governor Rick Scott leads incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson by 0.14%. Florida's 67 counties are required to complete their recounts by Thursday. (ABC News / The Guardian / Washington Post / NBC News / CNBC)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/florida-recount-palm-beach-county/index.html
Stacey Abrams filed a new lawsuit in federal court asking a judge to delay Georgia's vote certifications by one day to give officials time to count any votes that were wrongly rejected. If the suit is successful, officials would have until Wednesday to restore at least 1,095 votes that weren't counted. Neither campaign can agree on how many votes remain to be counted. (ABC News)
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/democrat-abrams-files-suit-georgia-governors-race-59127768![]()
2/ Without evidence, Rick Scott accused Bill Nelson of trying to "commit fraud to try to win this election." State elections and law enforcement officials say there is no evidence suggesting Scott's allegations are true. Florida's Senate race is one of three statewide contests headed to an automatic recount after the unofficial deadline for counties to report results passed. (The Guardian / CNN / Politico)
Nelson called on Scott to recuse himself from "any role" in the recount that will determine the winner of their race. The recount is overseen by Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner, a Republican who was appointed to his position in 2012 by Scott. (NBC News)
Scott has filed at least five lawsuits against county election officials alleging that some ballots were counted after the Saturday noon deadline and requesting that voting tabulation equipment be impounded after the machine recount is completed. (CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/rick-scott-florida-election-senate/index.html
An ethics complaint asserts that Scott broke state law when he held a press conference in front of the governor's mansion on Nov. 8 to claim that he would not "sit idly by while unethical liberals try to steal" his Senate race. A group of Florida voters and organizations have also filed a lawsuit that alleges Scott has abused his power as governor for threatening to not count legal votes. (Politico / Buzz Feed News)
3/ Trump properties received at least $3.2 million during midterms from campaigns and PACS. The Republican National Committee spent at least $1.2 million at Trump properties while the Trump campaign has spent more than $950,000 at the properties since the start of 2017. (CNN)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/10/politics/trump-properties-campaign-spending-2018-midterms/index.html
4/ A year before Jamal Khashoggi was killed, Saudi intelligence officials close to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman discussed using private companies to assassinate enemies of the kingdom. Saudi officials have claimed that Khashoggi's death was a rogue killing ordered by an official who has since been fired. Turkish officials say Mohammad al-Otaibi, Saudi Arabia's consul general in Istanbul at the time, as an accessory to the killing of Khashoggi has been established through his early denials and refusal to give investigators access to the consulate after Khashoggi's disappearance. Otaibi was not among the Saudis arrested or fired. (New York Times / Washignton Post)
5/ North Korea has continued its ballistic missile program at 16 hidden bases identified in new satellite images. The existence of the ballistic missile bases contradicts Trump's assertion that North Korea was "no longer a nuclear threat" following his June summit with dictator Kim Jong Un. (New York Times / Wall Street Journal / CNN / Washignton Post)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/politics/north-korea-hidden-missile-bases/index.html
6/ Michael Cohen and his criminal defense lawyer, Guy Petrillo, met Robert Mueller's investigators. Cohen's meeting with Mueller's team is the latest in a series of sitdowns since pleading guilty in August to federal criminal charges, including campaign contribution violations related to payments to two women at Trump's behest. Cohen has participated in multiple interview sessions totaling more than 40 hours with investigators from Mueller's office and federal prosecutors in New York City. (ABC News / CNBC)
poll/ 61% of Democrats see Republicans as "racist/bigoted/sexist." 31% of Republicans say they view Democrats the same way. (Axios)
Notables
Trump blamed California's wildfires on "poor" forest management despite nearly 60% of California's forests being under federal management. He also threatened to cut off federal funding due to "gross mismanagement." (ABC News / NBC News)
Democrats in the House have at least 85 different topics for potential subpoena and investigation, including Trump's taxes, his role in payments to two women who alleged that they had affairs with him, his family business, and his targeting of the press. One senior Democratic source said the Democrats are preparing a "subpoena cannon." New York Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler added that if Trump is found to have violated campaign finance laws with hush payments, it "might very well be an impeachable offense." (Axios / ABC News / The Guardian / CNN)
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-democrats-plan-review-trumps-role-hush-money/story?id=59127265
Trump blamed the stock market downturn on the prospect of "Presidential Harassment by the Dems." (Washington Post)
Half of the Republicans who wrote the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act are no longer in Congress. Of the 24 Republican tax-cut authors, four lost their seats in the midterms, three retired, three ran for another office, and two left mid-term. (Yahoo News)
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/half-house-members-wrote-trump-223224107.html![]()
Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 12th 2018 at 6:00:38 AM
You know, looking at Ojeda again, I don't know how much of it's hatred then just plain not giving a shit. Not that it matters to me, I'd be extremely hard pressed to think of a scenario in which I'd vote for him at all. Like, his reason for dropping his support of Trump was that W. Virginia didn't see enough of a benefit. Not, you know, the obvious racism and bigotry?
Yeah, no thanks. I'd take Andrew Cuomo before him, and that should tell you something.
Or, put more succinctly,
Edited by AzurePaladin on Nov 12th 2018 at 8:19:55 AM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerNow, to be fair, if pure selfishness leads one to abandon Trump, I see that a good thing. No candidate can hope to win if they can't get any votes from the selfish.
And with this guy is particular... the stigma of being a Trump voter is probably too much for him to overcome for him to have a chance of getting the nomination, but he seems like a decent enough guy; certainly a better face for the WV Democrats than Manchin. So while I don't really want him to be President, I do hope his political career goes places.
If he wanted to primary Manchin, that'd be one thing. But he's saying he should be the Democratic Party leader and President.
So he can fuck off.
Shit, his pro-gun rights stance (read: I will pander to the NRA and fuck the students who want gun control) and his working class stance (read: I still buy into the "economic anxiety" narrative) are also dealbreakers for me.
Edited by M84 on Nov 12th 2018 at 9:34:21 PM
Disgusted, but not surprisedThe GOP is conceding the Arizona Senate race.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/12/politics/sinema-arizona-senate-race/index.html
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And at least Manchin, as bad as he is, isn't presumptuous enough to think he should be the party's leader and President (or at least he realizes there's no chance in hell of him pulling it off). Manchin knows he won't be able to get many votes outside of WV.
Edited by M84 on Nov 12th 2018 at 10:22:02 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised

And trying to be the Democrat presidential candidate despite never having voted for the party...