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Illven Since: Jun, 2016
#261451: Nov 11th 2018 at 10:20:54 PM

Wikipedia seems to believe that Arizona's been called for Sienma.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#261452: Nov 11th 2018 at 11:21:52 PM

Has the fact that Kyrsten Sinema is bisexual been discussed anywhere?

I am not sure whether I'd call that race yet. Sure, Sinema is more likely to win than not but I like to wait for the official count to come in.

Also, the good folks at Vox have a summary of the recount/runoff issues in Florida, Georgia and Arizona.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#261453: Nov 11th 2018 at 11:23:16 PM

[up][up]Someone's getting ahead of themselves, then.

[up]That's the first I've ever heard of it. Which I suppose is a good thing, in a way. It really shouldn't matter.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#261454: Nov 11th 2018 at 11:27:14 PM

[up][up]I had heard that before, but I had forgotten about it until just now.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#261455: Nov 12th 2018 at 2:26:03 AM

Frankly, I have to remember myself that there is something to discuss.

Yeah, Donnelly trying to court the right and the left at the same time was a big mistake. But the add is really bad, too. It is waaaaay too defensive and basically boils down to "I will support what the Republicans do anyway". Ooookay...good for you.

Regarding the Recount...apparently Abraham's campaign went out of its way to collect data regarding how many provisional ballots haven't been counted yet, and the number they came up with is staggering. Which isn't exactly surprising considering how much Kemp went out of its way to keep ballots from undesirables out - which in turn means that a huge number of the votes in those provisional ballots are most likely Democrat. Plus, her lawsuit actually has a leg to stand on. The ones from the Republicans do not, they are just an attempt to stop democracy from happening.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#261456: Nov 12th 2018 at 4:54:11 AM

So, I’m sure y’all will be shocked, but, going off the official police report, it looks like Tucker Carlson is full of s*** and the “attack” on his mansion was... really tame.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#261457: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:10:45 AM

It sounds like the troops stationed at the border aren’t really having too much fun: [1]

They should have sent a poet.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#261458: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:18:55 AM

I cannot imagine anything more depressing than having to open and eat an MRE in full view of a Whattaburger.

Oh really when?
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#261459: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:30:56 AM

Yeah. And come on, aren't MREs more expensive than a food run would be, if the regulations weren't actively being stupid?

Plus, concertina wire? What the fuck are they even doing?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#261460: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:32:04 AM

[up][up]Eating one of the shittier MRE packages with no decent items in it in full view of a Whattaburger?

[up]I'm pretty sure some actual military bases have fast food options. Or at least chow halls where the food isn't totally awful.

Edited by M84 on Nov 12th 2018 at 9:33:27 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#261461: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:37:50 AM

[up][up]Killing time, mostly.

Only slightly better than digging holes and filling them back in.

Oh really when?
ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#261462: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:51:39 AM

[up]x4 Eating one of the shittier MREs with no decent items in it in full view of a Whattaburger during Thanksgiving.

Edited by ITNW1989 on Nov 12th 2018 at 5:52:05 AM

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#261463: Nov 12th 2018 at 5:53:31 AM

Eating one of the shittier MR Es with no decent items in it in full view of a Whattaburger during Thanksgiving and noticing that everyone else around you got better MR Es like the pizza ones or the ones with the good candy or the ones with the better spreads.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#261464: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:15:57 AM

Are the pizza ones really one of the better ones?

Oh really when?
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#261465: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:16:44 AM

Is there really such a thing as a "good" MRE?

"Yup. That tasted purple."
Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#261466: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:39:15 AM

Remember how I mentioned a goodly number of pages back that deploying troops to 'provide logistical support' is a tried and true obfuscation for getting into an area where you want them to shoot brown people 'keep the peace' and then ensuring that they shoot brown people 'have to respond decisively' by putting them in a position where they're right in the way of where brown people troublemakers are going to be?

Well putting them up in tent camps when better accommodations are available and making them do pointless work, while also supplying them poorly is a Gulf War Era tactic from the same vein. Because when soldiers are bored and frustrated, they're more welcoming of any chance to break the monotony and vent their frustrations.

And yeah, that's not the Pentagon's plan, they don't want their people on that border doing make-work for the President's political hobby-horse. Hell, even Mattis probably isn't a fan of this nonsense going on...

But someone like John Bolton has both the portfolio and malice to intentionally create a situation like this and know what he's doing.

Question is, of course, whether it's going to work out the way he wants it to, which I don't think it will.

Edited by Robrecht on Nov 12th 2018 at 3:40:20 PM

Angry gets shit done.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#261467: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:44:09 AM

Surprised it's not the national guard but the actual US military

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#261468: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:48:33 AM

[up][up]First of all, are you implying we poorly supplied our soldiers in the Gulf so they'd go shoot civilians?

Second of all, almost nobody in that entire FOB is armed. Nobody even has any rifles and there's a very limited number of handguns.

Absolutely no heavier weapons of any kind either.

Oh really when?
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#261469: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:48:58 AM

"Hell, even Mattis probably isn't a fan of this nonsense going on..."

He isn't. The article mentions how it has fed into the growing spat between him and Trump, because it's so obvious that Trump was only doing it for the election's ratings boost. Mattis even made them stop calling it "Operation Faithful Patriot."

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#261470: Nov 12th 2018 at 6:59:48 AM

what is a MRE and why are so shitty?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#261471: Nov 12th 2018 at 7:02:02 AM

Meal, Ready-to-Eat,which are rations,they're food for staying life at maximum energy levels so it's not exactly a tasty snack

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#261472: Nov 12th 2018 at 7:02:16 AM

[up][up]Meal Ready to Eat. US military field rations. They are supposedly somewhat more palatable now, but they are first and foremost meant to provide nutrition to soldiers and not flavor. [nja]

Are the pizza ones really one of the better ones?

They bear a passing resemblance to school cafeteria pizza from my Elementary School days.

So yes.

Edited by M84 on Nov 12th 2018 at 11:03:41 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
#261473: Nov 12th 2018 at 7:02:43 AM

Meal Ready to Eat. They're standard rations for the US military. Quality is hit or miss at best since they're designed for nutrition first rather than taste.[nja][nja]

I should go back to bed. I read Operation Faithful Patriot as Faithful Parrot...

Edited by Cris_Meyers on Nov 12th 2018 at 9:03:45 AM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#261474: Nov 12th 2018 at 7:04:04 AM

Is there really such a thing as a "good" MRE?

When someone kicks you in the nuts every day, merely being punched in the gut one day constitutes a good day.

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Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#261475: Nov 12th 2018 at 7:11:38 AM

First of all, are you implying we poorly supplied our soldiers in the Gulf so they'd go shoot civilians?

Second of all, almost nobody in that entire FOB is armed. Nobody even has any rifles and there's a very limited number of handguns.

Absolutely no heavier weapons of any kind either.

No, I'm outright stating that warhawks in the US civilian government interfered in the operations and planning of the US military leadership in order to ensure it supplied its solders poorly in the Gulf so that they'd shoot first and ask questions later. Because that's the truth.

And yeah, the troops on the border aren't armed... Because the Pentagon and Mattis put their foot down and said 'that's not going to happen', when the White House (probably at the behest of John Bolton or someone like him) ordered that they should be.

Because the people at the Pentagon aren't idiots, they know full well what putting a bunch of soldiers in a tent camp on the border over the holiday period and then giving them guns and a target for their frustrations is supposed to accomplish.

Angry gets shit done.

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