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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Got bottom-paged, so to reiterate:
Apparently these midterms had the largest governorship pickups for the dems in 36 years.
Also it's looking like Sinema might win, her lead keeps climbing.
I think people ended up being a bit hasty. The Dem's gains actually keep growing as more ballots get counted. Currently they have 30+ up in the House, and with the recount maybe Gillum can win Florida although I'm not getting my hopes up.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 8th 2018 at 11:37:04 AM
Golden may win in Maine as well, but with the ranked choice voting it will likely be next week before we have an answer. He is less than a point behind Poliquin, and there are two Independents beneath them that are more likely to lean Golden.
I will also reiterate the Democrats secured a state level trifecta in Maine today after securing seat #18 in the state Senate.
Didn't see this one yet - still Gov. Rick Scott (FL) is citing fraud in votes being yet counted in two counties
in the senatorial race and calling for an investigation.
"The people of Florida deserve fairness and transparency, and the supervisors are failing to give it to us," Scott said. "Every Floridian should be concerned that there may be rampant fraud happening in Palm Beach and Broward counties."
Edited by nombretomado on Nov 8th 2018 at 7:49:51 AM
Republican Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin can't call for a recount thanks to a law he signed after Trump narrowly won the state.
https://www.businessinsider.com/wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-loses-to-democrat-tony-evers-2018-11
I'm thrilled that he's no longer Governor, tempered with the feeling that some of the damage he did is quite possibly irreversible...
That's still too big! We need to make an even smaller violin.
Edited by AzurePaladin on Nov 8th 2018 at 12:24:09 PM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerIronically enough, in late 2015 and early 2016 this thread had a bit of Berniemania, including some regular and semi-regular posters who are now some of his harshest critics here. We were really excited about his economic message and the chance for moving the Overton Window to the left economically, even if we tended to concede that he'd never get any of that stuff through Congress.
Then basic math errors in his plans started coming to light. Then it started showing how limited his knowledge could be on subjects outside the economy and economic justice. Then he wouldn't concede the primaries despite being mathematically eliminated and reduced to relying on courting the same super delegates that he had decried as a perversion of democracy earlier in the campaign. By that point most people were done with him. When tone deaf statements continued and he seemed to be doing as much to throw shade at Clinton as to try to rally people against Trump, he officially got on the shit list of most people on the thread.
And then Trump won, and quite a few people here will never forgive Bernie for the little things he did that unwittingly played into that happening.
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I'm actually aware of that: I was lurking for a good long while, and that's probably when I started visiting this thread regularly instead of irregularly. Its kind of weird, actually. I could tell you who was posting then and who backed whom, and boy howdy was the thread much different then.
I wonder what the thread will look like in four years time?
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer![]()
As did I. In an attempt to sow those very seeds, really.
I appreciate that he helped bring these issues to the national level, but now he's probably best suited for the Senate. I do not think he would be well-suited to run for President.
Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Nov 8th 2018 at 12:43:40 PM
Oh God! Natural light!I flipped a coin before heading into the booth. It landed tails, so I voted Bernie. His Cult of Personality wasn't yet so bad and his hand-wringing about superdelegates was basically the same sort of thing Obama's campaign did. His behavior since losing the primary made me go from aloof to very much against.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."I'll admit I supported Bernie's run back in 2016. If I ended up back in time, I'd probably do it all over again, for the same reasons as Karkat The Dalek. If he were to run in 2020...well, I've got a list of grievances that's fairly long, and it would have to be a really bad field of candidates for me to even consider it.
Edited by AzurePaladin on Nov 8th 2018 at 12:52:20 PM
The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -FighteerI had a feeling there was something off about him practically from the start. His behavior during the primaries made me more and more wary of him, to the point I was glad he lost the primaries.
Everything since has made me realize my Gut Feeling was right about him.
It could just be that I'm generally wary of people who use populist strategies, even when — especially when — they are saying stuff that sounds good to me.
Edited by M84 on Nov 9th 2018 at 1:52:41 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedI personally found Bernie's lack of any solid positions on anything outside of domestic economic policies very concerning, and while I liked said domestic economic policies, I didn't think he'd be able to get any of them through congress. While I appreciated him making those ideas more mainstream, I was entirely behind Hillary
So uh, I've been doing a little digging into some statistics. Guess which demographic broke 59% for Ted Cruz, 76% for Kemp, and 51% for De Santis? White women. In fact from what I understand the percentage of white women who voted for Kemp is actually higher than white men by 4%. Like wut????
Some people thought the sheer inhumanity of the Trump administration would sober them to the reality of what allying themselves with the GOP means, but it doesn't seem to have happened. A lot of women of color are pretty disappointed with these results; for one counterexample, O'Rourke won the black women vote by 97%.Mona Eltahawy has dubbed them "the footsoldiers of the patriarchy"
in response.
This actually reminds me of my mother. If we lived in the US, I strongly suspect that at best she would be a "never trumper" conservative but vote GOP in every other thing. My brother coming out as gay has made her more accepting of the LGBT+ community, but every time me or my siblings have tried to talk to her about racist power structures it's like she just freezes, in one ear and out the other. She grew up in a dirt poor family where she was emotionally abused for being on the spectrum, bullied by her classmates, always The Un-Favorite, and then because she managed to carve out a respectable middle class living with my father, has bought completely into the "bootstraps" narrative and refuses to accept that white privilege doesn't invalidate her story.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 8th 2018 at 2:21:23 PM
Those women of color are probably disappointed but not too surprised.
I'm pretty sure a similar thing happened in Alabama during the special election. More white women voted for Moore — the pedophile rapist — than for Jones. The ratio was 63 to 34 or something.
Edited by M84 on Nov 9th 2018 at 2:25:11 AM
Disgusted, but not surprisedWhy rich white women vote constantly for Republicans.
My mother, her friends, and my next door neighbors all are upper class white women and used the same arguments.
And they're ALL INSANE.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Nov 8th 2018 at 10:26:36 AM
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Which is worse in his case, since he is a politician.
Edited by M84 on Nov 8th 2018 at 11:31:51 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised