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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#260851: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:27:57 PM

Assume as President Trump has supreme authority,it's not question if he can,its a case if he would he could

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CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#260852: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:29:16 PM

[up][up][up] Except those limits and laws against Hispanic would have to go through the House, which is now Democrat controlled.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#260853: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:29:45 PM

[up][up] Not really. I'm pretty sure they would have to go through a selection process like anyone else.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:30:07 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260854: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:35:32 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Müller makes his move in reaction. He has to before the White House request full access to whatever information he has collected already.

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#260855: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:40:47 PM

Soooo... exactly how fucked are we?

I mean, the Democrats having the House has to help at least a little, right?

I really don't want to become one of those "Oh woe is me, the sky is falling, the end of all things has come" people

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#260856: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:42:37 PM

We're fine.

Mueller likely has a plan if he's forced to turn over his finding already and the investigation can continue and in fact escalate now that we have the House.

We now have a ton of congressional resources at our command and can issue subpoenas and start other parallel investigations in addition to anything Mueller is doing.

Edited by LeGarcon on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:43:36 PM

Oh really when?
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#260857: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:43:02 PM

We’ve no idea, the situation is to active for us to understand the impact.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#260858: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:43:08 PM

Soooo... exactly how fucked are we?

I mean, the Democrats having the House has to help at least a little, right?

I really don't want to become one of those "Oh woe is me, the sky is falling, the end of all things has come" people

Not fucked at all.

With the House, we can propose legislation and thoroughly investigate the White House, both of which can help prepare for the 2020 President and Senate elections.

Realistically the midterm was a decent victory with some disappointing things (the governorships) that stopped it from being a clear victory.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:43:20 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#260859: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:43:21 PM

We're hinging this on Mueller being prepared for this scenario, which I would like to think he does, but what if he doesn't?

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#260860: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:44:48 PM

Then we carry on investigations with House resources and can likely hit them for destroying evidence as well.

Oh really when?
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#260861: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:47:55 PM

[up][up] I was watching MSNBC just now, and they had a guy who worked with Mueller for years who said he always has a contingency plan.

So, basically, things have gotten a little more hairy, but we're not completely off the rails yet

That's the hope, anyway

Edit: Boy, do I feel sorry for Rachel Maddow tonight. Her flow chart of firings has got to be too big to display now

Edited by MrHellboy on Nov 7th 2018 at 2:49:21 PM

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Ludlow Since: Apr, 2013
#260862: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:49:14 PM

If the investigation ends here, the investigation ends here. We have other ways to take down Trump, the investigation and impeachment route were always a longshot. Hell, even if Mueller found a smoking gun the Republicans in congress would deny it outright, there's no way we could have impeached Trump while the Republicans still own the Senate. Its better to focus on more traditional means to fight the president and the Republicans.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260863: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:50:08 PM

Mueller should be prepared. He isn't in the game since yesterday.

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#260864: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:52:20 PM

Guys, Rosenstein just arrived at the White House.

Time to panic now?

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#260865: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:53:32 PM

No?

Dude things are gonna be fine.

Oh really when?
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#260866: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:53:46 PM

If the investigation ends here, the investigation ends here. We have other ways to take down Trump, the investigation and impeachment route were always a longshot. Hell, even if Mueller found a smoking gun the Republicans in congress would deny it outright, there's no way we could have impeached Trump while the Republicans still own the Senate. Its better to focus on more traditional means to fight the president and the Republicans.

While I agree that impeachment is not a realistic end to Trump's administration I do not agree that the investigation is thus irrelevant, thoroughly investigating Trump and his White House will be a highly useful tool to ensure those electoral victories. If we can show people how corrupt and diseased he and his cronies are then that will make winning that much easier.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#260867: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:53:58 PM

Robert Mueller has spent most of his professional career as a public servant and even was FBI Director. I am absolutely certain that one of the first things they would do is set up contingency plans.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:54:50 PM

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#260868: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:54:08 PM

[up][up][up][up] Fuck off with that panic shit. This is a pre-planned meeting.

Edited by CookingCat on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:54:20 PM

Ludlow Since: Apr, 2013
#260869: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:55:33 PM

Don't panic. Like I said, the investigation is not our only method to fighting the current regime. Every struggle has its victories and defeats.

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#260870: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:56:09 PM

Edited by MrHellboy on Nov 7th 2018 at 2:56:54 PM

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#260871: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:56:43 PM

[up][up] Is it?

Alright, I'm sorry

I'll get it under control from now on

Edited by MrHellboy on Nov 7th 2018 at 2:57:24 PM

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260872: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:00:55 PM

On a more positive note, California 49th has been called and Mike Levin got the win.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#260873: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:02:19 PM

This is a thing that I've been wanting to ask for a while now: What's with the whole "[State name] [number]" thing?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#260874: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:03:28 PM

Congressional districts. In this case, the 49th District of the State of California (of which there are 53).

Edited by Deadbeatloser22 on Nov 7th 2018 at 9:05:21 AM

"Yup. That tasted purple."
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#260875: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:03:48 PM

If we're talking about Congresspeople, it might be the district of the state they represent

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