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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#260801: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:15:51 AM

Something I did see in one article that has proven out this election ...

Both of the Dem senators who lost their seats? Women running in Trump-heavy states.

Coincidence?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#260802: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:17:40 AM

Brown, Baldwin, Casey, and Stabenow all voted against Kavanaugh and won, Trump won states.

I think that's because these states (Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan) voted for Trump's economy policies and not because of his party or his court appointments.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260803: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:19:29 AM

The point is that none of the Republicans who voted for Kavanaugh were punished for it. They got away with this BS. And that hurts.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#260804: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:24:15 AM

tldr; Red States still suck, more news at 5.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#260805: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:05:51 AM

I’m hearing good news about Montana? Apparently Tester’s back in the lead and will PROBABLY stay there?

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#260806: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:05:53 AM

What depresses me about the Senate is that I really, really don't get how those who confirmed Kavanaugh could get re-elected. Just...why? How heartless and uncaring about due process are those voters?

Because he was exonerated.

I mean, he wasn't. He absolutely wasn't. But that's the state of rape culture in America. Any rape accusation that fails to end in a solid conviction is interpreted by Conservatives as "Lying bitch made up some bullshit to ruin a man's life."

Since Kavanaugh was ultimately confirmed, the Right and their voterbase see that as proof that the whole allegation (and, by extension, the #MeToo movement) was a duplicitous scheme by Democrats to invent fake scandals against good, honest Conservative men.

Now, those people don't speak for all of America. But they are a not-insignificant percentage of the voterbase. It's just another way that liberals and conservatives live in extremely different interpretations of the same basic facts. Liberals are mad that an obvious rapist was confirmed to the Supreme Court, while conservatives are mad that liberals would demean their unimpeachable candidate by trying to smear him with fake allegations of rape.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 7th 2018 at 10:08:20 AM

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#260807: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:19:29 AM

Google's AP feed still insists that the Senate election currently holds at 51 R, 43 D, 2 Other. What's with the hold-up on the remaining seats?

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Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
#260808: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:25:58 AM

Razor-thin margins, mostly. Close enough that even a minor swing might matter

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#260809: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:27:43 AM

There's a recount requested in Florida, Mississippi has to hold a run off, and not all the votes are counted in Montana. Not sure what's happening in Arizona.

Edited by Gilphon on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:31:11 PM

Snipertoaster from Mind Your Business (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#260810: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:27:49 AM

Bloody hell. I couldn't help but be drawn into Trump's speech after the election. He's basically pulled a big You Have Failed Me on all the Reps who got voted out. (And also said he'll use the Senate to investigate the House if they investigate him. Headache aside, is that even possible?)

We can choose to be better.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#260811: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:28:00 AM

There might be early, mail or absentee ballots to count.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#260812: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:29:37 AM

Oh man I'm watching MSNBC right now and Trump called either a CNN or an NBC reporter an enemy of the people and is accusing democrats of being weak on crime.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#260813: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:32:56 AM

Democrats are angry people huh? Gee, its almost like people don't like having their and their nation's values undermined by a hypocrite of a president. >.>

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Nov 7th 2018 at 9:33:44 AM

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#260814: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:34:36 AM

Well, here in Michigan we elected a democrat governor, in a Trump state, so it looks like he lost us. Also, 3 ballot proposals passed: one for legalized marijuana, one to undo jerrymandering, and one to protect voting rights. So—all good here.

Edited by DeMarquis on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:34:52 PM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#260815: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:39:56 AM

I see the Republicans won the Governor's Mansion in Alaska.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#260816: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:40:45 AM

Ok so Trump was just asked about whether or not he'll fire Mueller or declassify documents but he said he's not going to fire anybody (he doesn't like it politically, whatever that means) but that it's a disgrace with vague accusations of conflicts, and that he's looking into declassifying documents (which I take to mean that no, he's not even looked at the documents in question.)

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#260817: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:49:54 AM

God he’s desperate...

If the Democrats think they are going to waste Taxpayer Money investigating us at the House level, then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of Classified Information, and much else, at the Senate level. Two can play that game!

According to NBC News, Voters Nationwide Disapprove of the so-called Mueller Investigation (46%) more than they Approve (41%). You mean they are finally beginning to understand what a disgusting Witch Hunt, led by 17 Angry Democrats, is all about!

And as an added bonus, maybe Ryan Zinke will now has to contend with an legitimate ethics investigation by the House, if we’re lucky.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 7th 2018 at 1:00:14 PM

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#260818: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:56:31 AM

Remind me what Ryan Zinke specifically has done? Because there are so many names to keep track of in this mess.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#260819: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:57:33 AM

I hate it when people misuse "so called".

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#260820: Nov 7th 2018 at 9:58:49 AM

[up][up] the Secretary of the Interior. I have a particular loathing for him. here’s a list of his voting history on public land and the environment. He’s rated as a 4 percent.

He’s already facing an investigation by the Justice Department on Conflicts of interest, but hopefully the House can do so as well.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 7th 2018 at 1:05:37 PM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#260821: Nov 7th 2018 at 10:00:41 AM

So look at what I found here about Kris Kobach. Because oy wey.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#260822: Nov 7th 2018 at 10:22:46 AM

Tester appears to have won his race. Now there’s the question of Arizona...

Oh God! Natural light!
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#260823: Nov 7th 2018 at 10:23:32 AM

Here is a link on Tester's win.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/jon-tester-montana/index.html

In other news; Trump got in a pissing match with Acosta again.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#260824: Nov 7th 2018 at 10:33:33 AM

Now I am reminded of why I don't follow Trump discussions...

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#260825: Nov 7th 2018 at 10:35:18 AM

To be fair they're less discussions more shouting matches

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