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#260776: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:08:26 AM

Also a dead man won in Nevada? How does this work?
It's been discussed before, but when dead people win on the ballot, usually someone else from the same political party takes the seat, or there's a special election held down the line. Keep in mind how early some of the ballots have to be printed, if someone dies shortly before the election they can't re-print everything to put someone else on the ballot in time.
some of those races are apparently at 100% reported, but there is no winner announced yet? I guess because the races are so close?
Different states have different requirements for recounts depending on how close the vote is.
A dead rapist pimp.

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Yeah, Nevada's a class act like that.
Nevada now wants 50% renewable energy by 2030; a similar amendment in Arizona failed.
Damnit, I voted against that one because of how poorly it seemed written IMO.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
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#260777: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:08:49 AM

Don't forget to check how your ballot initiatives went. More than just people got voted in yesterday.

In Colorado, we beat the contentious 74 we all talked about yesterday that would have required the government to pay settlements to anyone whose land was devalued. But we also lost 112, which would have mandated that drilling for oil be done 2,500 feet away from water sources and schools.

Big Oil poured a lot of money into Colorado to kill 112, so losing that one's a bitter pill to swallow.

On the plus side, we got our non-partisan redistricting commissions for drawing up the maps in 2020.

We also abolished slavery (f*cking serious)! Colorado is used to be one of those states that allows convicts to be used for slave labor. So carving out that exemption from our State Constitution is a win.

We also passed a new regulation for payday lending, restricting their loans to an APR of 36% instead of their typical 100-180%.

And we fended off an initiative that would have allowed wealthier candidates in political campaigns to receive more money in donations than poorer candidates! F*cking serious, this ballot measure totally wanted to raise the campaign finance limit exclusively for anyone who spent $1 million or more on their own campaign. It was a wealthy candidate buy-in for increased donor spending.

So that's neat. Make sure you look up what state measures passed in your area!

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#260778: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:08:59 AM

[up][up][up]I think the point 538 was trying to make was that the Democratic wins weren't really about Trump.

[up]Once again I'm really relieved that the proposition to split California was removed from the ballot. Though I have on doubt that VC fuckwad is going to try again.

Edited by M84 on Nov 7th 2018 at 11:11:25 PM

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#260779: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:12:20 AM

I've seen it said on 538 that 'there was no overwhelming blue wave that served as a sharp rebuke to President Trump', but it seems to me like this alone was a pretty sharp rebuke to President Trump, right?
Rebuke? Absolutely. Sharp? Eh ...

My enjoyment of this election is pretty tepid. We did only as well as I expected in the House. We did a little better flipping Governor houses than I thought. And we got kicked in the jimmies in the Senate.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#260780: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:13:09 AM

We didn't have any state measures on our ballot in MN.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260781: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:14:59 AM

Well, one thing for sure, the Democrats did really, really well in the Gouverneur races. If I read this correctly, they didn't lose a single one, they managed to flip six (one of which was considered lean Republican), and came very, very close in some races. I mean, Gillum lost by 0.7% - basically the less populated rural areas outvoted the more populated cities in the end.

Oh, and Nelson is now calling for a recount.

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 7th 2018 at 7:21:48 AM

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#260782: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:18:36 AM

[up][up][up]Again, I don't understand why some are so down on the senate, but I'd be sounding like a broken record at this point. :V

[up][up][up][up]Fair enough, but surely his unpopularity played a role in getting Democrat voters out. It wasn't only about Trump - at least not for Democrats - but at the same time I doubt they weren't thinking of him.

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#260783: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:19:45 AM

[up][up] That's not true, actually. The Democrats have gained 7 Governorships so far.

The Republicans are still beating us 25-22, but it's an improvement over the staggeringly red governorship numbers we had before 2018.

EDIT: Oh, wait, did you mean to say the Democrats did really well? Because that's true.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Nov 7th 2018 at 8:20:38 AM

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#260784: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:22:05 AM

[up] Yeah, sorry, I naturally meant the Democrats.

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#260785: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:30:18 AM

I'm fairly happy about the results, taking the House is good and more governorships is nice.

Personally, I don't really see any reason to be disappointed about the Senate, it was always horrifically bad for us and the most realistic victory would just be holding the line.

What really bothers me is that Abrams just barely lost and only because of Kemp being a fucking cheater. Hopefully, she can contest it and at minimum make it very difficult for him.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260786: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:30:55 AM

Wow...the race in Texas 23th...currently Will Hurd is still leading, but only by a 0.3% margin.

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#260787: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:33:45 AM

The thing that hurts with the governorships is loosing the big ones of Florida, Georgia and Ohio.

As for the blue wave, it comes down to how you define a wave, if it’s by the popularity of the party then it’s a solid blue wave, Dems have won the popular vote for the house by a huge margin. However if you define it by the impact than it’s less good, Dems couldn’t overcome gerrymandering and voter suppression in many states.

It was a big wave, but somebody built a bunch of shore breakers and blunted the impact.

Edited by Silasw on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:34:37 PM

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#260788: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:34:40 AM

Honestly, I’m kind of down on the Senate because while it was always more likely we’d lose seats there, it seems to have gone worse than I’d anticipated.

On a more hopeful note, many have already commented that the 2020 Senate map does not look for the GOP. May I ask which seats people feel are most vulnerable there?

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#260789: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:38:42 AM

At least the democrats have a foot in the door and actually start restricting what the Republicans can do,maybe they can restore net neutrality in the future or something

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#260790: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:44:55 AM

Colorado and Maine are the most promising pickups on the 2020 Senate map, but Arizona, Texas, Georgia and maybe Louisiana are all playable down south (though Alabama must be defended), Iowa came out good for the Dems tonight and is a solid target in 2020, there’s also Alaska (the non-Murkowski seat) and North Carolina up.

Plus with Republicans also defending seats in South Carolina, West Virginia, Idaho, Montana, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Okalahomo, Wyoming, Mississippi, Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee there may be a pickup opportunity there is a scandal for roeublcians or a very strong candidate for democrats appears.

Edited by Silasw on Nov 7th 2018 at 3:45:36 PM

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#260791: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:49:59 AM

Speaking of election looks, the overall conclusion is that Americans like most Democratic ideas, just not Democratic politicians, which seems like those ideals will never get put into practice if you vote for the people who literally tried to veto the ballot measure you voted to pass.

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Emphasis mine. Lots of links in the original.
On Tuesday night, voters in the state of Utah elected Mitt Romney, America’s face of traditional Mormon conservatism, to the U.S. Senate. While at it, they also backed a ballot initiative to legalize medical marijuana that had been opposed by the LDS church and they chose to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, which has been a core policy battleground between Democrats and Republicans for almost a decade now.

Versions of this story played out all through the night as progressive ballot initiatives on Marijuana, the minimum wage, voting rights, and Medicaid passed in red and blue states alike—a reminder that even in parts of the country where Democratic politicians aren’t popular, many of their issues very much still are.

Along with Utah, blood red Idaho and Nebraska also embraced the the Medicaid expansion. Between the three, more than 300,000 lower income Americans could become eligible for coverage under the program.

Over in the Ozarks, Missouri residents voted to gradually increase the state’s minimum wage to $12 an hour and to legalize medical marijuana, all while sending moderate Democrat Claire Mc Caskill packing in favor of the state’s conservative attorney general, Josh Hawley. With its left hand, Arkansas passed a minimum wage hike of its own—to $11 by 2021. With its right, it re-elected Governor Asa Hutchinson, a Republican who had opposed the measure.

Purplish Michigan, which sent a Democrat to the governor’s mansion this year, opted to legalize recreational marijuana.

Meanwhile, Florida, which broke Democrats’ hearts in a pair of close elections for governor and Senate, also passed a felon re-enfranchisement bill restoring voting rights to 1.4 million individuals—giving progressives an iota of hope for the sunshine state’s future. It was a reasonably solid night for voting rights and good government initiatives elsewhere too: Colorado and Michigan both adopted non-partisan redistricting commissions to avoid Congressional gerrymandering in the future; a handful of states passed automatic or same-day voter registration.

The point here isn’t that Americans are somehow hypocrites or misguided for supporting Democratic priorities while voting against actual Democratic politicians. Issues like immigration, gun rights, and abortion loom large (often, largest) in red states, after all. It’s perfectly comprehensible that a Trump-loving voter in Arkansas or Missouri might vote for the guy with an R by their name, while supporting higher wages.

Progressive ballot initiatives didn’t sweep the night either. Montana decided to discontinue its Medicaid expansion, after a initiative that would have funded it with cigarette taxes failed. Medical marijuana appears to have gone down in North Dakota. Voter ID initiatives passed in Arkansas and North Carolina.

Still, it’ s a reminder that good chunks of the Democratic agenda are fundamentally pretty well-liked. As red states embraced Medicaid expansion, Democrats retook the House on a campaign focused largely on maintaining protections for Americans with pre-existing health conditions—a reminder that Americans like most things about Obamacare these days, except the name. The campaign to up the minimum wage keeps notching wins. Marijuana is legal for medical use in 33 states, and for recreational use in 10. And in some key states, allowing people to vote is still apparently considered a good idea.

Health care, higher wages, and getting high: Democrats could pick a worse platform for 2020.

Now I disagree with the article - as I bolded, when you pass an initiative, while voting for the guy who opposes it, exactly how the fuck do you think that's going to be implemented? It'll be done as poorly as possible, to deliberately sabotage the process. Because that's what the GOP does.

On the automatic registration front, Nevada is one of those now. Automatic voter registration will now be part of any action at the DMV. Presumably because that way they've already seen all your identifying documents.

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#260792: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:50:25 AM

On a more hopeful note, many have already commented that the 2020 Senate map does not look for the GOP. May I ask which seats people feel are most vulnerable there?

It's a little early to say much concrete, though we can say that 1) there are 20 Republican seats up for re-election (in contrast to this year, where it was the opposite) and 2) it's a Presidential year, so increased turnout which tends to benefit Democrats.

I think Collins in Maine may have a fight on her hands, if the voterbase wants to make her pay for her Kavanaugh vote. But that's mere speculation. Mcconnel's also up for re-election, but the man's like a cockroach. He just keeps coming back.

Mc Cain's seat in Arizona may also be up with no incumbent. The person appointed says they're only interested in serving until 2020. That, of course, could change though.

Edited by Cris_Meyers on Nov 7th 2018 at 9:51:56 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260793: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:53:14 AM

What depresses me about the Senate is that I really, really don't get how those who confirmed Kavanaugh could get re-elected. Just...why? How heartless and uncaring about due process are those voters?

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#260794: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:53:50 AM

So, I'm getting told that Abrams (D-Georgia) and Nelson (D-Florida) are contesting the results of their respective elections. Is this confirmed? The former seems to be, according to quick googling, but the latter seems more ambiguous unless the reports from about 30 minutes ago are accurate (that is, Nelson is defying expectations that he concede and instead is demanding a recount).

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#260795: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:56:29 AM

All the most recent articles say that Nelson is indeed pushing for a recount.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260796: Nov 7th 2018 at 7:56:53 AM

[up][up] The Guardian reports that he demands a recount after all. But that the guy who has to approve the recount was appointed by the guy Nelson is running against. So....won't hold your breath. But I am glad that Nelson is pushing for it.

Edited by Swanpride on Nov 7th 2018 at 7:57:02 AM

DeathorCake Since: Mar, 2016
#260797: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:09:39 AM

[up]x3

I had just had a long conversation about the Napoleonic Wars on very little sleep when I read that, so for a couple of seconds there I was confused about why Lord Admiral Horatio Nelson is running in an American election. Obvious nonsense, that would probably be in breach of the Emoluments Clause.

Anyway, good job America. Two years of almost complete deadlock again? Certainly an improvement over the current situation.

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#260798: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:10:30 AM

Florida has a grand tradition of pointless recounts, doesn't it? It would be strange to oppose one.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#260799: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:11:17 AM

My general view is that the Senate loss is terrible and the House without the Senate won't be able to magically fix America like Aslan and Narnia.

However, it means that the two years of watching Obama's legacy and other progress be undone is halted.

So I'll take it.

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#260800: Nov 7th 2018 at 8:11:51 AM

FWI, so...for anyone who think Kavanaugh had any effect on the outcomes well...

Heller voted for Kavanaugh and lost.

Bredesen said he would’ve voted for Kavanaugh and basically got stomped, relative to his name recognition

Brown, Baldwin, Casey, and Stabenow all voted against Kavanaugh and won, Trump won states.

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