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BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#260701: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:25:31 AM

@Beary Scary Well for one this is the first Texas senatorial election in 28 years not to be a 10+ point blow out for the Republican candidate. For another presidential years tend to have higher youth turnout. He also wouldn't need to win Texas, just force the GOP to waste resources trying to keep it. Finally, he can play into the sports team mentality against Trump in a way he couldn't against Cruz because Cruz has lived in Texas since he was 4 while Trump is a New Yorker.

The final tally has Cruz ahead by just 2.6 points.

Edited by BigMadDraco on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:28:03 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#260702: Nov 7th 2018 at 12:35:30 AM

The Arizona senate race is really weird, because 85% of all precincts have reported in, but the total number of votes is still only 1.6 million out of a total of 6.6 million people.

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#260703: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:13:39 AM

Well, if Beto gets chosen as someone's VP pick or runs for president himself, there are worse choices... and ones that are certainly harder on the eyes

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#260704: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:17:01 AM

Any information on Arizona and Montana? Republicans are narrowly ahead but the precincts left are in blue parts of the states, especially in the case of Arizona. I believe these could go either way.

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#260705: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:17:23 AM

Is it normal for only 24% of people to actually vote in midterms? I would've thought that number would be higher.

Snipertoaster from Mind Your Business (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#260706: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:21:25 AM

I'm glad that we were able to take the House. The Senate was kind of a lost cause this time around, but on the bright side, if Trump wins again in 2020, then we'll be able to spend more time stockpiling ammo for 2022.

I think winning the House was one of the best outcomes that could be hoped for, given the circumstances.

Sucks the GOP got more seats in the Senate (and amusing that El Naranja Grande is looking only at that and sweeping the House outcome under the carpet), but now the Dems have far more of an opening to cause further fits of rage for Trump and his toadies.

We keep fighting in the future, but for now, we pat ourselves on the back.

We can choose to be better.
DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#260707: Nov 7th 2018 at 1:47:00 AM

Congrats to Democrats for the victory. I do want to ask, though, is it a good idea for Nancy Pelosi to be house speaker again? I've nothing against her, but I understand she's fairly unpopular, plus she's almost eighty, making her retirement in a few years a likely possibility. It doesn't seem like a good condition for keeping the house.

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#260708: Nov 7th 2018 at 2:05:47 AM

Various news sources are saying that the Arizona senate seat won't be decided for at least a couple of days because the turnout was something like 60% and they weren't prepared for such high numbers. There are tons of uncounted votes just sitting around, including hundreds of thousands from Maricopa.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#260709: Nov 7th 2018 at 2:32:36 AM

Apart from the Arizona seat do we have a comprehensive count on what we won and lost and where yet?

Oh really when?
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#260710: Nov 7th 2018 at 2:59:54 AM

I do want to ask, though, is it a good idea for Nancy Pelosi to be house speaker again? I've nothing against her, but I understand she's fairly unpopular, plus she's almost eighty, making her retirement in a few years a likely possibility. It doesn't seem like a good condition for keeping the house.

Pelosi is good at what she does, and anyone that becomes Speaker will quickly become deeply unpopular anyway

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260711: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:10:54 AM

Nah, let her do it. There is no need to burn an actually popular Democrat in this role.

So, I had to catch a few hours sleep so...apparently the Democrats flipped a senate seat why I was out? Which one?

And yeah to Stacey Abrahams refusing to yield to Kemp! Frankly, I wouldn't put it past this guy to ensure that all the democratic votes are counted at the very end! But in any case, she needs to take any recourse she has at this point!

And do I see this correctly that the Democrats have flipped seven chambers? And how many trifectas do they have now?

I am really no expert in US politics, but if I get this correctly, this should be hugely important, considering that the states in itself do have a considerable share of power. They can do a lot of good there, even while Trump is in office.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#260712: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:15:55 AM

“Pelosi is good at what she does”

Citation needed, cause she said this last night: "We have all had enough of division" House Democrat leader Nancy Pelosi says her party will pursue a bipartisan agenda as Democrats projected to win majority in lower chamber.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260713: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:23:33 AM

[up] Urgh….hopefully this is just hot air.

So...apparently Gosar (the guy whose siblings said nobody should elect) actually won. How? I really despair, America!

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#260715: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:37:00 AM

You'll note that with a Republican Senate, a bipartisan agenda is the only way for anything to get done

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260716: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:41:07 AM

[up] Yes. And if what the Republicans want to do is terrible, I expect the Democrats to block them at every turn. It is better nothing gets done than that something terrible gets done.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#260717: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:42:27 AM

Bummed that Eastman didn't upseat Bacon in NE-02, but she did score nearly a whole percentage point higher than Ashford did in 2016, and he had the advantage of being the incumbent and the traditionally higher Democratic turnout of a presidential election year.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#260718: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:44:00 AM

You'll note that with a Republican Senate, a bipartisan agenda is the only way for anything to get done

But what if we don't want anything to get done? The GOP agenda is categorically awful and two years of governmental paralysis is preferable to passing GOP legislation.

Mio Since: Jan, 2001
#260719: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:45:22 AM

Pelosi has been kind of circling the drain as far as the leader of the House Democrats goes. But in the end there is no one in a position to replace her or stating an intention to replace her so I guess she’s just going to press on. I have no idea what to make of the bi-partisanship remark except that it’s just a kind of reflexive response that she feels she is supposed to make.

That aside even if the night was overall good for Democrats it’s hard for it not to feel like a defeat for me since my home state went solidly (even if by thin margins) for Republicans. It double doesn’t help that this will almost certainly mean my job will get worse in the long run.

If nothing else the Florida trace really captures the image of old (relatively) rich white people working together to keep younger, more poor, and diverse people down.

Also the amendment to the state constitution to require a super majority to raise taxes passed, which is immensely dumb but not surprising.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#260720: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:45:36 AM

[up][up]Exactly.

Edited by wisewillow on Nov 7th 2018 at 6:45:57 AM

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#260721: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:47:06 AM

I am really no expert in US politics, but if I get this correctly, this should be hugely important, considering that the states in itself do have a considerable share of power. They can do a lot of good there, even while Trump is in office.
It is hugely important in several ways. It's how you control local politics, the statehouse draws the districts (anti-gerrymandering), it hel[s build future talent, and flipping statehouses helps get us away from how the GOP was one statehouse short of being able to ram through Constitutional amendments on a purely partisan line.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#260722: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:48:02 AM

...I think we're using different definitions of "bipartisan agenda". Generally this means compromising to pass bills both sides consider acceptable, not letting both sides do whatever they want

Though honestly I don't expect the Republicans to be willing to come to the table in the first

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#260723: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:50:03 AM

The Republicans' idea of "compromise" for the last 30 years has been "we punch you in the face and you hit the floor", rather than "let's come to an agreement".

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260724: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:52:49 AM

If the Democrats use the power they have now to set up fairer voting (complete with laws to prevent the Republicans to undo their effort), they should be able to create circumstances which will allow them to hold the house for a long, long time....

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#260725: Nov 7th 2018 at 3:54:39 AM

looks like the Greens did their part to ensure that the Democrats would loose the Arizona Senate race…What the hell!


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