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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#260651: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:50:08 PM

Apparently, people are still in line in Nevada.

Oh God! Natural light!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#260652: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:50:11 PM

@The Wanderer You'd have to wring my mom's neck to do that, which means you'll have to wait in line because I got first dibs. I've been arguing with her about why she voted wrong all week. She just kept repeating the same "I believe you should always vote with your values" crap every time. Apparently, she was convinced of this because the Green candidate was on NPR whining about how both the Democrats and the Republicans were bullying her and telling her not to run because she stood no chance.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 6th 2018 at 10:51:04 AM

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#260653: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:50:21 PM

@Silasw Not quite yet-Democrats are leading the House, but there are still a large number of toss ups.

Edited by ViperMagnum357 on Nov 6th 2018 at 12:51:05 PM

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#260654: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:51:26 PM

Yeah news on Nevada, they won't release results while people are still in line to vote, which apparently they still are.

[up] Apparently they currently have control of the state house and are predicted to maintain it.

Edited by Silasw on Nov 6th 2018 at 5:52:11 PM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#260655: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:51:34 PM

People are still in line in California too.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#260656: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:52:03 PM

NPR still has the dems at 24 and the projected number of wins has shrunk to 33. I just hope the 24 remains steady regardless of what happens.

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#260657: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:53:57 PM

[up][up][up]I am showing Dem. 28 won 50 lead Rep. 11 won 41 lead Ind. 6 lead

I never underestimate my state's ability to go Red for no reason at all.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#260658: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:57:55 PM

Would this situation in Arizona be one that warrants a re-vote? A 3rd party candidate who dropped out and endorsed the Democrat getting more votes than the difference between the Democrat losing and winning?

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#260659: Nov 6th 2018 at 9:59:15 PM

No do-overs, best hope if it does go to the Republicans is that the Greens learn their lesson.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#260660: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:00:56 PM

I wouldn't count on that. Response would probably be "Well, if the Democrats were better, the votes we got wouldn't have mattered".

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#260661: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:01:10 PM

I doubt that will happen. Once a quack, always a quack.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#260662: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:01:34 PM

That's such fucking goddamn garbage bullshit.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#260663: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:07:18 PM

Friggin' Green Party fuckwits...

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#260664: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:07:43 PM

You'd have to wring my mom's neck to do that, which means you'll have to wait in line because I got first dibs. I've been arguing with her about why she voted wrong all week. She just kept repeating the same "I believe you should always vote with your values" crap every time. Apparently, she was convinced of this because the Green candidate was on NPR whining about how both the Democrats and the Republicans were bullying her and telling her not to run because she stood no chance.

Heh. Well, needless to say, I won't be wringing any necks, but my fucking god the frustration... did people learn nothing from, say, voting your values getting George W. Bush getting put in the White House and deciding it was time to make Saddam pay, even though there was no plan for what to do with Iraq or the rest of the Middle East afterward. How about the way anti-Clinton value voters got Agent Orange in the White House?

I mean, would you rather have someone who you agree with 70% and can hold accountable if they don't work with you, or someone who agrees with you 10% and will literally make it their job to ignore you and mock your every concern and value?

I just don't get it. All I can is say is it's a comfort to know I'm not the only one feeling this way. Apologies to all for my earlier hyperbole, including Pushover and Pushover's mom.

I'm currently worried sick about the governor's race in CT. Lamont is very slowly making up the deficit with the Republican, but he's running out of time in which to do it. And the outgoing Democratic governor is notoriously unpopular, (as in, among the most unpopular governors in the country unpopular) and a Republican is running on the Libertarian ticket, and, IIRC, actively campaigning to split votes from Democrats. It's a hell of an uphill climb, and I don't know if Lamont has enough voters left or enough electoral savvy to pull it off.

Edited by TheWanderer on Nov 6th 2018 at 1:10:35 PM

| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#260665: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:09:03 PM

[up]They'd rather chase after Unicorns than actually be part of meaningful change.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#260666: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:10:34 PM

South Dakota governorship has been called for the Republicans.

Also we can expect another 50,000 ballots to be counted in Wisconsin soon, where the Republican is leading the governors race by less than 2,000 votes.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#260667: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:15:45 PM

Results are starting to appear for Nevada, hold on folks.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#260668: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:16:43 PM

Initial reporting leans R, but far too early to tell.

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#260669: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:20:57 PM

The one bit reporting so far is leading for the Republicans but by less than it lead for Trump, who lost the state by 2 points.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#260670: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:24:11 PM

I've got to head out for now, so it will remain to be seen tomorrow by what margins the House swung towards Democrats.

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#260671: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:25:56 PM

I'm currently worried sick about the governor's race in CT. Lamont is very slowly making up the deficit with the Republican, but he's running out of time in which to do it. And the outgoing Democratic governor is notoriously unpopular, (as in, among the most unpopular governors in the country unpopular) and a Republican is running on the Libertarian ticket, and, IIRC, actively campaigning to split votes from Democrats. It's a hell of an uphill climb, and I don't know if Lamont has enough voters left or enough electoral savvy to pull it off.

Update: Lamont has made up some of the ground, but with 73% of the votes counted he's still behind by over 20K votes, currently it's roughly 513,500 to 492,000 with Lamont down. Still quite a few votes to be counted, but I'd feel a lot better if that deficit was about half what it is.

| Wandering, but not lost. | If people bring so much courage to this world...◊ |
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#260672: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:34:16 PM

There's still plenty of hope left for Sinema, though, as infuriating the Green party is. Maricopa (my district, actually) leans towards her by 1.1%, and only has 13% of their votes counted so far. Maricopa also has WAY more people living in it than in all of the rest of Arizona combined. 4.09 million vs 2.64 million.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#260673: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:48:53 PM

Apparently the Nevada numbers are looking good for the democrats and in Arizona the counties left to report are the heavily democrat ones and the democrat doesn't need to make up much ground to take the lead.

It’s be nice to end the night with two wins.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Illven Since: Jun, 2016
#260674: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:50:09 PM

[up] If we did that, that would make the senate 53-47? Or am I miscounting?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#260675: Nov 6th 2018 at 10:51:34 PM

Actually, Sinema, despite losing at the moment, might be a lock. The next largest district, Pima, leans towards her heavily (56.5% vs 41.4%) and also has only 16.9% of their votes counted so far.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 6th 2018 at 11:53:41 AM


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