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Yeah, pretty much, I was so afraid that by the time the midterms came that the Republicans had managed to manipulate the voting so well that the Democrats wouldn't have a chance even with a majority of voters.
Now that the big questions of who's going to get a majority in what house of congress are over, I'm wondering what the big lessons will be for the Democratic party. Is going further left the way to go? Or do more moderate, centrist politicians actually still win. What do we need to emphasize in 2020 in order to win? Who should be our candidate for the 2020 elections?
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How big? In 2016 Colorado raised it minimum wage to 12.00 an hour.
Oh, also, for anyone in Colorado worried about amendment 74, it looks like its losing decisively.
Edited by Ludlow on Nov 6th 2018 at 8:43:28 AM
Reminder that the 2016-18 House was responsible for passing the worst versions of the healthcare, wall, and tax bills, and the roadblock to reinstating net neutrality. Having it under Dem control means less of the Senate barely managing to contain its excesses on account of a handful of moderate Republicans
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 6th 2018 at 8:42:41 AM
Also, about the Senate (again); since the Senate was already in Republican hands before this election, have the Democrats really lost anything?
Obviously it'll take more Republican defectors to stop decisions made in the Senate (I can't remember what exactly they do that the House doesn't, but I know they have some unique duties), but I was under the impression that basically no Republican senators defect anyway, by virtue of Trump's 'effect' on the party (though I suppose with Mitt Romney ascending to the Senate, he might prove to be the exception), so has the situation really changed at all?
Those sell-by-dates won't stop me because I can't read!All I can say right now that is that I’m proud to have helped kill Brownbackistan and keep Kkkobach out of office. I have no intention of staying in Kansas in the long run, but still.
Thank fuck, and if any fellow Kansans are here or lurking, thank you.
PSN ID: FateSeraph | Switch friendcode: SW-0145-8835-0610 Congratulations! She/TheyAs an outside observer: The candidates which were more aggressive and ready to call the Republicans out on their BS seemed to be more successful.
Clear goals also seemed to help. You know, giving people something to vote for, not against.
And this might be a local thing, but it doesn't seem to me like Democrats fishing for Republican voters were particularly successful. The ones which focussed on getting as many people as possible to the ballots were.
Edited by Swanpride on Nov 6th 2018 at 8:45:16 AM
Kinda.
Bills need to pass both houses of Congress to become law, so holding the House provides some leverage in legislation. The Republicans made extensive use of this during Obama's presidency. Also, I may be wrong here, but I believe tax legislation must come from the House. Plus, the House can order investigations: so, say, they could launch an investigation into whether or not Kavanaugh lied to the Senate during the hearing.
@LSBK: Imca's not an American, so more explanation and less insults might be in order.
@Imca: Let me put it this way. Trump can order a wall built all he wants, but unless he wants to pay for it out of pocket, he has to have the House agree to budget for it.
The Wall is dead. The ACA cannot be repealed, and it can't be defunded without a government shutdown that the Republicans will lose. Mueller's investigation will continue racking up hits.
A House victory can damn well stem the bleeding from having Trump in the White House, as well as setting us up for a 2020 trifecta.
Democrats playing Republican never really succeed. Those guys got fucking obliterated in 2010 and 2014. What saved Manchin, for example, wasn't kissing Trump's ring, but the long history of voting for the Democratic policies his white voters love. The ACA put more win in his sails than probably anything else. When voters want a Trump collaborator, they vote brand-name Republican, not bargain-bin poor man's Republican.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Nov 6th 2018 at 11:48:16 AM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Guys, you've won the ground floor of the federal government. This isn't a loss.
In many ways, this wave has done better than what you could reasonably have expected. It just didn't go according to your wildest hopes.
On a scale of hopeful to Brexit-level skip-fire, you're currently more sturdy than you were.
Congrats.
Don't slack off. <wags finger>
You know what, that's fair. Today is the time to celebrate. We fought hard for Colorado and it paid off in spades.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Centrism was the tactic taken by Clinton but failed miserably because the Republicans have doubled and tripled down on right wing politics with no compromise. I don't think the public really wanted to hear watered down Leftism.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.@Ramidel, Imca might not be American, but it seems like she's lived in the United States fairly long and following all of this, and this is always her general take on things (overly pessimistic, looking at everything in the worst possible light) so I don't think I was being particularly insulting.
Edited by LSBK on Nov 6th 2018 at 10:49:43 AM
