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TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#259977: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:04:25 PM

> Votes switched to red because of a "polling error"

Gee, I wonder how much of that error was because of Cyrillic Writing?

Edited by TechPriest90 on Nov 5th 2018 at 9:04:46 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#259979: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:07:12 PM

At least we won't have to ask anyone to pardon it anymore if we go that route

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#259980: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:11:15 PM

[up]x4 That would still be good. In fact in some ways, it would be better, because then Trump can't get radicals into Courts and Executive Agencies.

I think the Dems are gonna do great tomorrow. I'm 100% confident they take the House and most of the Governorships this Election, and I believe they can just barely take the Senate. They'll also probably do really good in certain Republican-dominated State Legislatures (like in the Midwest, North Carolina and Kansas).

I'm thinking we might see the Liberal Answer to the Reagan Revolution. What I would call the Obamuprising.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Nov 5th 2018 at 9:11:30 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#259981: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:16:04 PM

Eh,just a tad too hopeful,being realistic I don't expect them to retake the senate or the house,but they'll win victories though,lots of victories that matter

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259982: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:18:59 PM

[up]

I don't expect them to retake the senate or the house,

Might I ask why?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#259983: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:19:50 PM

[up][up] How does an 80+% chance of taking the House translate in having no faith whatsoever?

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 5th 2018 at 7:20:01 AM

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259984: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:20:04 PM

[up]x4 We actually owe all this progressive grassroots organizing to Trump though.

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 5th 2018 at 9:23:46 AM

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#259985: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:21:16 PM

[up]No, we don't owe a damn thing to Trump.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#259986: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:23:31 PM

> Might I ask why?

Just a feeling I have,I'm wary of being too hopeful,especially when it comes to polices.I'll eat my words if they win the senate back though

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#259987: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:24:12 PM

He is a polarizing person, you have to admit. That said, there was a story recently that campaigns were seeing more success by avoiding talk of Trump

[up] What if they win the House but not the Senate, which has always been there more likely scenario

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 5th 2018 at 7:25:20 AM

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259988: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:26:02 PM

To be clear, the possible outcomes for tomorrow, in order of likelihood, are:

  • The Democrats take the House, but not the Senate (~69%)
  • The Democrats take both chambers (~18%)
  • The Republicans hold both chambers (~12%)
  • The Democrats take Senate, but not the House (~1%)

These are number that paint a pretty clear picture.

Edited by Gilphon on Nov 5th 2018 at 9:26:30 AM

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#259989: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:29:05 PM

I’d also note that the Senate outcome can vary, the Dems could gain a seat in the senate, hold even or loose one or more seats. All three outcomes there fall under Dems not winning the senate however but are actully pretty different both in outcome and in narrative.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259990: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:30:58 PM

Trump winning the election was a wake up call. We started to see the injustice, racism, hatred, disenfranchisement, that had been bubbling up just beneath our noses clearly for the first time, and once we got over the shock and horror, we immediately started to organize, and resist. Remember the Woman's marches or the Science March?

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 5th 2018 at 9:32:01 AM

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#259991: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:33:31 PM

[up]x7 If we want to be technical, then, we've gotta thank FDR and LBJ for the Reagan Revolution. But we didn't call the RR the 'FDR Reprieve' or anything like that.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Nov 5th 2018 at 9:33:43 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#259992: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:35:31 PM

I'm going to be cautiously optimistic about the Senate chances.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259993: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:37:49 PM

So this has been bugging me for a bit now. I still think the Dems have a very good shot of taking the House, don't get me wrong. However, there was an article published recently that said that weather can have an effect on elections. Basically, if someone's not sure about whether or not they're going to vote or even who they'll vote for, a bit of unfavorable weather might cause them to vote Republican or even not vote at all. Generally speaking this only occurs with borderline voters, and I don't think this will even be that much of a factor. But there are some states on the East Coast which are going to see some potentially nasty weather tomorrow, so there's a chance it might affect things. Maybe I've being paranoid or getting too worked up about something that doesn't matter, but I want to make sure we've covered all our bases.

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259994: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:39:34 PM

[up][up]I wouldn't advise that- I'd advise being cautiously pessimistic about the Senate- expect the Democrats to lose, but don't be too shocked if they win. And meanwhile, with the house, being cautious about your optimism is just gonna stress you out.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#259995: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:42:02 PM

To clarify, my "optimism" the sort of "things probably won't go in the worst case scenarios" type.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 5th 2018 at 8:42:30 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#259996: Nov 5th 2018 at 6:47:12 PM

Double post, but to follow up on the weather comment, I am a bit worried if heavy rain in my area might depress turnout.

Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#259997: Nov 5th 2018 at 7:00:07 PM

Record turnout is good. Republicans don't win when people actually vote.

Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#259998: Nov 5th 2018 at 7:14:16 PM

[up]Usually. But there's an argument to be made that the GOP voterbase is similarly motivated.

Its one of the reasons a lot of pollsters are watching the IL-6 House race. How it turns out would be informative on whether 2016 or 2008(?) is the appropriate baseline.

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#259999: Nov 5th 2018 at 7:43:08 PM

I'm pessimistic about the Senate, but I really REALLY want Claire to keep her seat, and it's less because of Claire herself and more because my nephew's white supremacist Trump-quoting rape apologist butt will be absolutely insufferable if Hawley gets the seat.

AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#260000: Nov 5th 2018 at 8:09:44 PM

@kkho: Could you maybe link us to this article instead of just giving us the gist? Because that doesn't sound right. Not the part about the weather making people not vote (because at that point they've decided that the weather makes it too inconvenient), but the weather somehow determining what party someone votes for. That... sounds like shaky reasoning at best.


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