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Imca (Veteran)
#259801: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:43:58 AM

TBH there really should be MORE cases of voting with the other party, but the other party is so unreasonable at this point ._.;

Either way it really is a bad metric, a beter one would be the things they vote with them or agianst them on.

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#259802: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:18:02 AM

King votes with the majority of Democrats 90% of the time. He endorsed Susan Collins in 2014, for what it's worth.

So yeah, he wears his purple on his sleeve, and in a more sane day he might have been a conservative, small-government Republican, but he can't abide the current coalition of insanity.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#259803: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:53:23 AM

Yeah King is someone that in a sane world would be a leading Republican alongside Manchin.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#259805: Nov 4th 2018 at 7:44:48 AM

The naked conflict of interest there is disgusting.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259806: Nov 4th 2018 at 7:44:49 AM

[up][up]And just two days before the election to boot. I'm sure this will go over well with the voters.

Edited by kkhohoho on Nov 4th 2018 at 9:44:58 AM

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#259807: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:05:40 AM

He's prepared to get in his excuses early and try to throw the result out if it doesn't go his way.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#259808: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:08:37 AM

Why the fuck are partisan, elected officials even allowed to oversee elections....

Just another thing that's so strange about the US, along with gerrymandering and elected sheriffs and judges.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#259809: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:18:32 AM

[up]Yup, I'm not backward in expressing my boggled mind, too.

Guys, you need to fix this. Badly. I'd argue that electing too many key governmental positions has helped get you into this bipartisan nightmare you're currently in.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#259810: Nov 4th 2018 at 8:25:11 AM

If nothing else, nobody should be able to be in charge of overseeing an election that they are themselves running in.

TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#259811: Nov 4th 2018 at 10:34:37 AM

It's probably left the bastard open to lawsuits if he does win, though.

I apologise to any illegitimate children I insulted.

Edited by TroperOnAStickV2 on Nov 4th 2018 at 1:34:49 PM

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#259812: Nov 4th 2018 at 11:42:41 AM

[up] No offense taken

Meanwhile: Supreme Court declines to stop climate change lawsuit filed by young activists

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/supreme-court-declines-to-stop-climate-change-lawsuit-filed-by-young-activists-2018-11-03/

The Supreme Court on Friday declined for now to stop a lawsuit filed by young activists who say the government isn't doing enough to prevent climate change. But the high court told the Trump administration that the government can still petition a lower court to dismiss the case as the government had asked the high court to do.

...

The Supreme Court also didn't rule out bringing the case back to the justices after the appeals court rules. Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Neil Gorsuch said they would have extended the halt to the case.

Imca (Veteran)
#259813: Nov 4th 2018 at 12:18:38 PM

Remember when the environment was a non partisan issue, and a Republican founded the EPA. ._.;

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#259814: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:03:12 PM

Yes historically, but that hasn't been true for as long as I've been alive.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#259815: Nov 4th 2018 at 1:17:51 PM

My parents can remember when entire segments of the political spectrum weren't openly aping Captain Planet's Rogues Gallery. Does that count?tongue

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Robrecht Your friendly neighbourhood Regent from The Netherlands Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Your friendly neighbourhood Regent
#259816: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:13:56 PM

Inuendo Studios just did a very worthwhile video on some of the issues that result from the current way Democrats are approaching politics:

The tl;dr for the video is basically that Democrats care (too) deeply about pursuing the correct means of governing and that, as result, they're handing over way too much power to the Republicans (and the Alt-Right) who mostly only care about the ends.

Angry gets shit done.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#259817: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:35:03 PM

We absolutely cannot engage in the kinds of cheating and voter suppression that Republicans do.

We need to restore institutions, not further tear them down.

Oh really when?
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#259818: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:37:23 PM

I would rather the left win by playing smarter and better, not dirtier. We don't need to cheat, unlike the right.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#259819: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:46:46 PM

Well, I strongly feel that Brian Kemp's due a lawsuit for blatant misconduct. And some time in jail.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#259820: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:47:08 PM

I've always thought of the fact that we vote to elect so many positions like sheriffs and judges made the process that much more democratic. Did I miss something along the way?

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#259821: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:50:08 PM

The standard view (at least among liberal democracies) is that law enforcement and the judicial system should be professional services that promote based on merit, and not be directly exposed to the will of the electorate, to do otherwise risks mob rule.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#259822: Nov 4th 2018 at 2:58:06 PM

But what literally just happened with Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#259823: Nov 4th 2018 at 3:01:30 PM

But what literally just happened with Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch?

They were chosen by a pseudo-democratic body that ignored the will of the people.

That doesn't make elected judges a good thing. Every democratic government has meritocratic positions for a reason because it's fine to elect leadership but you still need professionals who don't have term limits.

The judiciary should not ignore the public will, but it shouldn't be purely beholden to it either. Elected judges add perverse incentives to the position that stand in the way of handing out justice.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#259824: Nov 4th 2018 at 4:06:08 PM

••• We absolutely cannot engage in the kinds of cheating and voter suppression that Republicans do.

I think what he's saying is we can't keep worrying about looking like the moral victors when Republicans are making life hell for anyone not white, straight, or male.

i'm tired, my friend
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#259825: Nov 4th 2018 at 4:12:36 PM

To my surprise, I agree with the video. I mean, I always dislike the idea that we should "go low" too, but the video has a point that currently the alt-right basically defines what "going low" actually means, by accusing the other side of exactly the kind of thing they do. Not that I think that the Democrats have any desire to even DO most of this stuff, but it is necessary to call the Republicans and the Alt-right out on it on every turn ("Hence the "I say the Racists think that you are a racist" line was so clever", because it was an attack which made it pretty much impossible for the Republican to answer in kind - I mean, what is he supposed to say, "The Antifa thinks that you are Antifascist"? That would hardly work), and to have clearly stated goals. Saying "we respect the democracy" is not enough, they have to say "we will fight for our democracy by putting a stop to gerrymandering and voter suppression". Clear goals people can get behind. Not just "we won't do that", but also "this is what we will do".

I am btw glad that my country does have hate speech laws. Many people argue that having laws like this curtail free speech. I say that hate speech is curtailing free speech.


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