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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Honestly, I'm worried that a Military man with an itchy trigger finger is gonna kill a few with a rifle or handgun and a few more are gonna follow and then get called "a lone actor not influenced by Trump at all" or they will justify it and while he would get prison anyone else who fired wouldn't.
It is illegal, but the oversight the military has a lot of the same accountability problems the cops have.
".....Costs up to a million dollars per day to send more soldiers to the border....."
Funny how silent the budget hawks of the Republican Party have gone. Is this not a clear cut example of wasteful public spending?
That money isn't the President's personal piggy-bank. It's public money, paid from taxes on hard earned wages.
But hey, I guess it's probably not wasteful when the ruling dispensation does it.
Edited by TechPriest90 on Nov 1st 2018 at 11:25:02 AM
I hold the secrets of the machine.![]()
Thanks for the reminder. But I'm not sure Agent Orange would punish if anyone went awol and did go to border. Especially with his baseclamoring for a gun to go off.
If we listed all the double standards at play we'd be here all day.
One of the most transparent ones for me was how the Republicans hated Bill Clinton for being a democrat and beating Bush Sr, and so they prattled on about family values and how him being a horndog and an adulterer was a stain on the presidency.
That's not to say that Bill's behavior towards women was in any way appropriate, but Donald is on an entirely different level of debauchery and misogyny, and yet somehow there they are gassing him and pretending they still have the moral high ground.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Nov 1st 2018 at 11:37:47 AM
What would it take to add a rule that requires the Secret Service to confiscate any phone that the POTUS uses for government business involving sensitive/classified information if it's proven to be unsecure?
Edited by MarqFJA on Nov 1st 2018 at 7:15:14 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.This would be more reassuring if not for the US already having a history of deploying military groups abroad under the notion that they are just 'advisers' going there to 'provide training'. And, crucially, 'they're just there to help with logistics' is one of the historic excuses for sending regular soldiers.
On account of you can defend sending a bunch of officers with a small group of specialists or a special forces unit under the excuse that they're there to advise and train the locals... But ain't nobody going to believe that Private third class Cooter from Bumfuck, Louisiana is in a position to advise or train anyone in anything other than which bits of a half-flattened roadkill possum are still halfway edible.
Still, 'logistics' just means carrying stuff around. You can justify deploying a lot of soldiers under the excuse that they're there for 'logistics'. And you can have a lot of 'accidents' if you decide that the area that most needs 'logistics' right now is the one right in the path of the people you want to have those 'accidents'.
Not saying that that's the plan here... Just saying that if that was the plan, 'logistic support' is exactly what they'd call it, because that's exactly what they've called it in the past.
Edited by Robrecht on Nov 1st 2018 at 5:42:50 PM
Angry gets shit done.![]()
If a soldier somehow sees a migrant, the only thing they could do would be to call CBP. Anything else would count as enforcing domestic law, which is like the #1 thing the military isn’t allowed to do. Half of these guys won’t even be armed, or will be “directing traffic and handing out water” in the words of a local polician who went down to check out some border areas.
And the argument that they’ve used euphemisms for special forces action before so they might be doing it now falls completely apart when you take into account that we know which units are being sent, and they’re not combat units, and that they’re going to be doing the exact same thing the military has been doing on the border since the 80s.
Oh, and the additional soldiers being sent to the border probably won’t even be there when the caravan arrives. They’re only funded through December 15th, and the caravan isn’t supposed to arrive until after that.
Seriously, let’s not fearmonger about this so much. It’s an empty PR move by a president desperate to rally his base ahead of an increasingly challenging-looking election.
Edited by archonspeaks on Nov 2nd 2018 at 4:06:01 AM
They should have sent a poet.I found this interesting table
comparing early voting turnout between 2018 and 2014.
Voting amongst people aged 65+ has decreased by -14%.
Furthermore
the number of people in Texas who are under 30 and have never voted at all before exceeds the total number of first time voters in other states.
Something closer to home
for me is that 17.7% of the votes cast in Georgia so far have been from people under 40 and at this point in 2014 they only accounted for 9.6% of the vote.
If young people are turning out as much as this seems then I'm beginning to suspect that those D+9 polls may have drastically underestimated our chances.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Nov 2nd 2018 at 9:31:03 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI disagree, there's nothing irrational about acknowledging good data and extrapolating from there to form a positive opinion.
As long as you're free of complacency (as I am) there's no real harm to it, especially considering that such things can drive up enthusiasm.
I agree.
Oh certainly, my point was just that early voting indicators are looking good and if that reflects election day (as it very well may due to all of the things you've said) then things could go very well for us.
So my feelings on the matter are the opposite of worry

Is there anything Our Dear Leader isn't good at?
"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."