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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Trump has made sexual comments about teenage girls before and I believe there was some connection with the child sex traffficing rings that have recently been found to have existed in high society within the UK.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIf Donald Trump guts the 14th Amendment in an attempt to destroy chain migration and birthright citizenship and then tries to apply it retroactively in an attempt to screw Obama, he'll actually screw himself.
After all, Obama's mother comes from several generations of US citizens (Kansas) and he was born in the US (Hawai'i). As a result, Trump would have a hard time applying anything to Obama without screwing over millions of Americans at the same time.
Trump, however, has a much more tenuous and fragile relationship with US citizenship than Obama does.
His grandfather, Fred Senior, was German. He fled Germany to escape the draft and decided to try and get rich from the Klondike Gold Rush. He then returned to Germany and married his neighbour, Elizabeth. They moved to New York (an ethnically German part), but she hated it so they returned home to Germany.
She conceived in Germany, but they had to leave the country when Fred's draft dodging past caught up with him. So they moved back to the US just three months before their eldest child, Fred Junior, was born.
Fred Junior was therefore a birthright citizen.
Meanwhile, Mary MacLeod flees poverty in Scotland to go and live with her sisters who have already moved to the US. She only just scrapes into the legal migration category by a single day (she turned 18 the day before her ship docked at the US). She lived in the US long enough to be allowed to naturalise.
As a result, Mary MacLeod was a naturalised citizen.
Donald Trump is therefore the child of a birthright citizen and a naturalised chain migrated economic migrant.
He should ensure, for his own sake, that he doesn't apply it retroactively.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 30th 2018 at 11:47:17 AM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.So, on a funny note, anyone hear about the idiots who tried to frame Mueller. Yeah...didn't go so well.
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That's very interesting. Anyone that takes even a cursory glance at Trump's twitter will have seen the name Jacob Wohl responding to every announcement Trump makes with lavish praise.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.to which I'd say it's not, gonna, happen. Its nigh impossible to get an amendment in the best of times nowadays. A walking controversy like Trump would not have even a snowball's chance in hell.
Graham's efforts are slightly less futile, but not by much. The Midterms are nigh and there is a high chance for the Democrats to nip that bill in the bud as a result.
Edited by MorningStar1337 on Oct 30th 2018 at 5:38:16 AM
I don't actually think the notion of putting some narrow limitations on Birthright citizenship is crazy (for example children born to people in the country on tourist visas), but the fact of the matter is that the plane text of the 14th Amendment is very straightforward on the issue.
If you are born on US soil and are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, they are citizens. Period, end of story.
And the only way for someone to not be subject to the jurisdiction of the United States is if they have some form of diplomatic immunity, or in an area that is under occupation by an invading army and therefore the US has no practical jurisdiction.note
This means that even the narrowest of limitations to birthright citzenship requires a Constitutional Amendment. Doing it by legislation is unconstitutional, doing it by executive order is unconstitutionally insane.
To be fair, countries putting some kind of restriction on citizenship (like you have to have the blood of a native son or daughter or something similar) isn't that odd.
In Trump's case though - even a fool can guess which kind of immigrant he had in mind while making that statement.
You think it's going to be rigged towards Cruz?
Edited by TechPriest90 on Oct 30th 2018 at 9:40:04 AM
I hold the secrets of the machine.Again, I need to take a moment to comment on how cartoonishly evil the Right Wing are. With the whole bullshit about attempting to frame Mueller for rape.
There's really no end to this. It's like Lex Luthor remaining rich and a Presidential candidate no matter how many times he tries to kill Superman.
It's also weirdly banal. They can't think of anything other than what they are accused of.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 30th 2018 at 8:16:14 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.>Trump would have a hard time applying anything to Obama without screwing over millions of Americans at the same time.
1. I don't think he'd have a problem with that, but
2. It would absolutely be enforced selectively.
3. She explained it better than me
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I'm saying they will say one of your ancestors was "illegal" and then you have to prove otherwise.

Oh yeah, that would be a special kind of awful.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang