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TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#259276: Oct 29th 2018 at 1:45:05 PM

[up] That's partially dependent on where you live...

Whee, out-of-context page toppers.

Edited by TroperOnAStickV2 on Oct 29th 2018 at 4:45:45 AM

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259277: Oct 29th 2018 at 1:55:01 PM

From the New York Times

A new lawsuit accuses President Trump, his company and three of his children of using the Trump name to entice vulnerable people to invest in sham business opportunities.

Filed in federal court in Manhattan on Monday, the lawsuit comes just days before the midterm elections, raising questions about whether its timing is politically motivated. It is being underwritten by a nonprofit whose chairman has been a donor to Democratic candidates.

The allegations take aim at the heart of Mr. Trump’s personal narrative that he is a successful deal-maker who built a durable business, charging he and his family lent their name to a series of scams.

The 160-page complaint alleges that Mr. Trump and his family received secret payments from three business entities in exchange for promoting them as legitimate opportunities, when in reality they were get-rich-quick schemes that harmed investors, many of whom were unsophisticated and struggling financially.

A new lawsuit accuses President Trump, his company and three of his children of using the Trump name to entice vulnerable people to invest in sham business opportunities.

Filed in federal court in Manhattan on Monday, the lawsuit comes just days before the midterm elections, raising questions about whether its timing is politically motivated. It is being underwritten by a nonprofit whose chairman has been a donor to Democratic candidates.

The allegations take aim at the heart of Mr. Trump’s personal narrative that he is a successful deal-maker who built a durable business, charging he and his family lent their name to a series of scams.

The 160-page complaint alleges that Mr. Trump and his family received secret payments from three business entities in exchange for promoting them as legitimate opportunities, when in reality they were get-rich-quick schemes that harmed investors, many of whom were unsophisticated and struggling financially.

The complaint can be read here

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#259278: Oct 29th 2018 at 2:52:51 PM

If I am remembering correctly, a former President can still have some members of the Secret Service protecting them for life, correct? If that is so, then I will feel bad for the poor son of a bitch(es) that has to keep an eye on Mr. Cheeto because you know he's going to want to have them at his beck and call.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#259279: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:01:46 PM

[up] I'd hate to be the guy on Trump's security detail. And please don't compare him to Cheetos - I like me some Cheetos.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#259280: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:02:45 PM

I mean if he ends up locked up I suspect that the secret service protection would be suspended for the duration of his sentence.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#259281: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:04:56 PM

There's no way he's going to jail after being being President,they'll him a lot of money to go away and he'll do a Bush vanish from public view,he'll still get protection

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#259282: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:05:14 PM

I say that Trump's Secret Service protection should be revoked outright as part of the process of convicting him of whatever crimes that he can be convicted of. He has no right to it, being illegitimately elected and all, and even if you can somehow argue against that, he has lost any such right by the very actions that he has taken and continues to take since he took office.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#259283: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:06:33 PM

He won the election legally and he cannot legally be charged for any crimes he commits in office.

Much as I hate to say it.

Oh really when?
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#259284: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:06:35 PM

I don't see Trump staying out of the public eye after he's done. It's contrary to everything about him.

TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#259285: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:12:20 PM

[up]x2 His victory wasn't illegitimate. It might be distasteful, but it wasn't illegitimate.

And if it's the System that made him, it's the System that can unmake him. Which is what is happening anyhow.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#259286: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:13:37 PM

Trump can’t be charged for crimes he commits in office? Are you sure? I’m pretty sure a president can be arrested.

Leviticus 19:34
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#259287: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:15:30 PM

Nixon only avoided charges because he was pardoned, I don't believe there's any precedent or dejure rule that supports the idea that the President can't be charged for things they did in office.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#259288: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:15:49 PM

It wasn't illegitimate as far as we know. It remains to be seen what the Russia probe turns up.

Also, seems like the recent spate of hate crimes has reflected badly on Dear Leader.

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#259289: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:21:29 PM

@Tech:

Ok, so an obese Chester Cheetah? Or an expired bag of Cheetos? tongue

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#259290: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:30:15 PM

Trump can’t be charged with crimes while he holds office, one he leaves office he can be charged with crime sthat he has commited as president.

Also due to massive voter suppression it’s not entirely clear that the 2016 election was free and fair.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#259291: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:35:34 PM

> I don't see Trump staying out of the public eye after he's done. It's contrary to everything about him.

I agree actually,once he leaves office who knows what he'll do next,guy is unpredictable

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#259292: Oct 29th 2018 at 4:09:59 PM

Should be noted that if Trump were ever to go to prison (I'm not holding my breath, he'll die free), he'd spend all of his time isolated from other prisoners. He's too much of a security risk, what with all the classified data he has access to.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#259293: Oct 29th 2018 at 4:14:20 PM

Personally, I don't think we should attack the integrity of the electoral system in the same breath as attacking Trump. We can condemn both, but calling Trump "illegitimate" is likely to lead nowhere good when his base has no respect for any legitimacy except "did we win?" It's playing right into his hands.

We shouldn't undermine the legitimacy of our electoral system further. Until we win control of it, it's the only one we've got. And always remember:

The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law.
Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass

Edited by Ramidel on Oct 29th 2018 at 3:19:19 AM

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#259294: Oct 29th 2018 at 4:46:50 PM

I'm just saying, maybe a system of government created by rich, white slaveowners should not be held as the gold standard when the only thing that hid its flaws was just a person's sense of honor

Edited by NoName999 on Oct 29th 2018 at 4:48:45 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#259295: Oct 29th 2018 at 4:54:16 PM

I mean, who here has said anything about holding it up as the gold standard?

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#259296: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:17:36 PM

@No Name 999: While the American system shouldn't be held up as "perfect" (I'm not sure if I'd even say "gold standard"), but it is imperative to note that the fact that the founders were slaveowners doesn't have much relevance.

They didn't directly end slavery, but they didn't start it either-and they ultimately laid the groundwork for abolitionism in the US ("all men are created equal"). They're at least as responsible for the Civil Rights Movement as they are for Jim Crow.

Leviticus 19:34
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#259297: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:21:35 PM

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2018/10/29/day-648/

Day 648: Purveyor of hate speech.

1/ A man armed with a semiautomatic assault-style rifle shot and killed 11 people during Shabbat services at a Pittsburgh synagogue in the deadliest attack on Jews in the history of the United States. Robert Bowers was charged with 29 counts of federal crimes of violence and firearms offenses. He also faces state charges, including 11 counts of homicide. Bowers told police during the shootout: "I just want to kill Jews." (Washington Post / The Guardian / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/28/us/pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting/index.html

2/ Trump: "If there was an armed guard inside the temple, they would have been able to stop him." Trump added that the shooting "has little to do" with gun laws, but, "if they had protection inside, the results would have been far better." (CNN / New York Times)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/27/politics/trump-jba-death-penalty-pittsburgh/index.html

Pittsburgh Mayor Bill Peduto: Armed guards are not the answer. "We should try to stop irrational behavior from happening at the forefront," Peduto said. "And not try to create laws around irrational behavior to continue." He added: "I don't think that the answer to this problem is solved by having our synagogues, mosques and churches filled with armed guards or schools filled with armed guards." (NBC News)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/pittsburgh-mayor-trump-armed-guards-are-not-answer-n925341

3/ The former president of the Pittsburgh synagogue labeled Trump the "purveyor of hate speech" and said he would not be welcome in the city. Lynette Lederman's comments followed an open letter signed by a coalition of local Jewish leaders that states: "President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you fully denounce white nationalism." More than 30,000 people have signed the open letter. (The Guardian / The Guardian)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/29/he-is-not-welcome-here-thousands-support-pittsburgh-jewish-leaders-calling-trump-denounce-white-nationalism/

4/ Trump will visit Pennsylvania to commemorate the the victims of the mass shooting at Tree of Life Synagogue despite Pittsburgh's mayor requesting that the trip be postponed until after the funerals are held. (NPR / Washington Post / New York Times)

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/29/661845687/president-trump-to-visit-pittsburgh-after-deadly-synagogue-shooting

5/ Trump called for unity but blamed the media for the "anger and outrage" in the country, accusing the press of being "the true Enemy of the People" for what he called "fraudulent" reporting regarding the wave of pipe bombs sent to prominent Democrats and the gunman who massacred Jewish worshipers at a Pittsburgh synagogue. The media is "doing everything in their power to blame Republicans, Conservatives and me for the division and hatred that has been going on for so long in our Country," Trump wrote in a separate tweet, claiming "it is their Fake & Dishonest reporting which is causing problems far greater than they understand!" Sarah Sanders also accused the media of blaming Trump for the pipe bombs and synagogue shooting. (Washington Post / Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/29/trump-slams-fraudulent-media-945103

6/ A third suspicious package was mailed to CNN. The package was intercepted at a post office in Atlanta, where the network is headquartered, and was "similar in appearance to" the ones addressed to John Brennan and James Clapper. (NBC News / The Guardian / CNN)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/29/media/cnn-atlanta-suspicious-package/index.html

poll/ 54% of Americans believe that Trump's decisions and behavior as president have encouraged white supremacist groups. 69% say they would like Trump's speech and behavior to be more consistent with his predecessors, or that he has damaged the dignity of the office. 58% disapprove of Trump's job performance as president. (Public Religion Research Institute)

https://www.prri.org/research/partisan-polarization-dominates-trump-era-findings-from-the-2018-american-values-survey/

Notables.

The U.S. military will deploy more than 5,000 troops to the southwest border in anticipation of the arrival of the caravan of migrants currently in Mexico. Trump tweeted: "This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!" (Wall Street Journal / ABC News / Washington Post / Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/29/trump-military-caravan-migrants-945683

A new lawsuit accuses Trump, Trump Organization, Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump, and Eric Trump of using the Trump name to encourage vulnerable people to invest in sham business opportunities. The 160-page complaint alleges that Trump and his family received payments from three business entities in exchange for promoting get-rich-quick schemes that harmed investors as legitimate opportunities. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/29/nyregion/trump-acn-lawsuit.html

Former President Jimmy Carter called on Brian Kemp to resign as Georgia's Secretary of State in order to avoid damaging public confidence in the outcome of his contested race against Democrat Stacey Abrams. Stepping aside, Carter wrote a letter to Kemp, "would be a sign that you recognize the importance of this key democratic principle and want to ensure the confidence of our citizens in the outcome." (NBC News)

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/jimmy-carter-calls-georgia-gop-candidate-resign-secretary-state-n925531

Trump's private schedules show he has up to nine hours a day of unstructured "executive time." Official meetings, policy briefings and public appearances consumed barely more than three hours of his day. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/29/trump-daily-schedule-executive-time-944996


Week of Oct 21 – 27: What We Learned in the Russia Probe

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 29th 2018 at 6:24:03 AM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#259298: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:30:16 PM

I'm just saying, maybe a system of government created by rich, white slaveowners should not be held as the gold standard when the only thing that hid its flaws was just a person's sense of honor

No, but maybe you shouldn't be tearing it down from one end while the current government is dismantling it from the other. Remember that Trump wants the system to become illegitimate too - that way, he has less opposition when Making America White Great Again and stripping out the checks and balances against that.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#259299: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:56:30 PM

Trump can’t be charged with crimes while he holds office, one he leaves office he can be charged with crime sthat he has commited as president.

False; he can. You’re mistaking far-right blathering for fact.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#259300: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:00:22 PM

Supreme Court turns away Pennsylvania electoral map dispute

https://mobile-reuters-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1N31PC?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1

The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rebuffed a bid by Republican legislators in Pennsylvania to reinstate a congressional district map struck down by that state's top court as unlawfully biased in favor of Republicans.

...

The justices, with no noted dissents, on Monday rejected the Republican appeal of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling throwing out the previous Republican-drawn map because it violated the state constitution's requirement that elections be "free and equal" by marginalizing Democratic voters.

The high court previously rejected two Republican requests to block the new district boundaries that the state high court issued to replace the old map, which had been in effect since 2011. Republicans have held 13 of the state's 18 U.S. House seats since 2011 despite Pennsylvania being a closely divided bellwether state


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