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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#259251: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:31:49 AM

Not sure about the bomber but the synagogue shooter was critical of Trump; Too tolerant of Jews and their globalist refugee plot.

wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#259252: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:33:34 AM

Yeah. Synagogue murderer basically liked Trump’s ideas except for not being racist enough. But he was still repeating all the Trump caravan propaganda.

Edited by wisewillow on Oct 29th 2018 at 10:33:55 AM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#259253: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:43:16 AM

I don’t want to stoke any fears here, but I have a question - did Hitler ever condemn outright violence against Jews and other groups early on (while naturally being completely okay with it), or was that just on the table from day one?

Oh God! Natural light!
Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#259254: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:52:47 AM

I'm sure they used gaslighting techniques, but I think Trump honestly cares about this, given his daughter and son-in-law are observant Jews. I know, he's terrible, but that is what it is.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#259255: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:54:42 AM

[up][up] Well...Hitler was REALLY big in mentioning so called "Verhetzer" in his speeches (meaning people who incite violence and hatred). But he was not talking about the people who were actually holding hate speeches, he was talking about Germans who were communists, social democrats or of Jewish faith. Also there was this narrative that some of Hitler's followers "overstepped" during the Reichskristallnacht. Which was naturally nonsense, what happened was exactly the logical consequence of his politics.

But Hitler did for a while pretend to have become less radical, in order to get the support of Hindenburg early on. If anyone had actually bothered to read "Mein Kampf" he would have never gotten away with this - I hope.

Edited by Swanpride on Oct 29th 2018 at 7:56:37 AM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#259256: Oct 29th 2018 at 8:08:14 AM

No, they would just have claimed that Mein Kampf is "not serious/literal" or that they can control its author. Which, if memory serves, was indeed a widespread belief about Hitler.

Hey, didn't a lot of "Trump won't be so bad" folks claim these exact things about Big D? Also "take Trump seriously, not literally" thing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#259257: Oct 29th 2018 at 8:12:52 AM

> If anyone had actually bothered to read "Mein Kampf" he would have never gotten away with this - I hope.

It's a horribly boring book written by a mad man,and I don't think reading it would not have stopped him sooner.

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259258: Oct 29th 2018 at 8:16:50 AM

[up][up][up]The difference is Trump isn't really pretending to be less radical. He's saying the same things he always has. It's just that occasionally he acts vaugly Presidental because that's what he's expected to do.

Edited by kkhohoho on Oct 29th 2018 at 10:17:13 AM

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#259259: Oct 29th 2018 at 8:25:12 AM

How early do you have to get up to beat the lines at a polling place?
I think that depends heavily on your local district. Best bet is get there early as you can.
Is there any chance at all the Dems can win even one seat there?
I think the Dem best chance is my home state of Nevada, and that was still a toss-up when I mailed in my ballot.
Today Trump is focusing on Latinos, Middle-Easterners and people from places like Nigeria, Cameroon and so on. How much longer before he decides to take a snipe at South Asians?
Honestly I'm not sure he can tell you apart.
It's okay to joke about it, right? I mean, nobody actually got injured.
My own mood flips between joking about it and the looming horror that Trump and his followers want the unhinged among them to do this. (See my post in the Law Enforcement thread.)
Trump isn't really pretending to be less radical. He's saying the same things he always has. It's just that occasionally he acts vaugly Presidental because that's what he's expected to do.
Occasionally, when he's forced to, and only when he's exhausted all other options?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#259260: Oct 29th 2018 at 9:20:19 AM

You can usually tell when he is forced to say something. The delivery is so hollow.

Disgusted, but not surprised
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#259262: Oct 29th 2018 at 9:51:34 AM

[up]It's a sign of how jaded I've become that my first reaction was relief that it wasn't a mass shooting and "only" one person died.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#259263: Oct 29th 2018 at 9:52:02 AM

And we've got reports of another suspicious package sent to CNN (their Atlanta HQ this time). Thankfully it was intercepted.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/29/media/cnn-atlanta-suspicious-package/index.html

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259264: Oct 29th 2018 at 9:55:00 AM

[up] It’s from the same guy as well.

You’d think they’d at least try to disguise it a little better.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 29th 2018 at 12:55:34 PM

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#259265: Oct 29th 2018 at 10:05:26 AM

And related, Trump is back to calling reporters the enemy of the people. Absolutely unacceptable behavior.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#259266: Oct 29th 2018 at 10:09:30 AM

Unacceptable, but totally predictable.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#259267: Oct 29th 2018 at 10:10:31 AM

Kevin McCarthy, the #2 Republican in the House, sent and then deleted a tweet telling people to stand up to Soros, Steyer, and Bloomberg supposedly buying the election.

The fact that all three are Jewish is totally a coincidence.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#259268: Oct 29th 2018 at 10:12:37 AM

[up]The bullshit excuse they made would have held more weight if they had thrown in one who wasn't Jewish.

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259269: Oct 29th 2018 at 10:12:38 AM

[up][up]Might be important to note that this is from before the Synagogue shooting.

Edited by kkhohoho on Oct 29th 2018 at 12:12:55 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#259270: Oct 29th 2018 at 10:23:40 AM

Well, I've finished early voting. Straight Democrat, voted against to amendments, and abstained on one proposition.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#259271: Oct 29th 2018 at 12:54:13 PM

I also just finished early voting. Straight Democrat as well

Oh really when?
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259272: Oct 29th 2018 at 1:08:48 PM

Trump is going to Pittsburgh on Tuesday.

Haven’t they suffered enough? (Pittsburgh is overwhelmingly Democratic, just FYI)

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 29th 2018 at 4:11:15 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#259273: Oct 29th 2018 at 1:19:51 PM

It gets better:

A group of progressive Jewish leaders told Trump that he's not welcome in Pittsburgh until he denounces white nationalism. The comments came in the wake of the mass shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh that left 11 dead and many more injured over the weekend. "Our Jewish community is not the only group you have targeted," the group wrote in a letter to Trump. "You have also deliberately undermined the safety of people of color, Muslims, LGBTQ people, and people with disabilities. Yesterday’s massacre is not the first act of terror you incited against a minority group in our country." (The Hill)

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/413558-jewish-leaders-say-trumps-not-welcome-in-pittsburgh-until-he

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259274: Oct 29th 2018 at 1:22:34 PM

[up] Don’t be suprised if we about protests tomorrow think.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 29th 2018 at 4:22:48 AM

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#259275: Oct 29th 2018 at 1:41:51 PM

Welp, I voted for the first time in my life today.

Hadn't done it before that. Not even in 2016. Yes, I am partly responsible for this nightmare. I'm sorry, and I will not make that mistake again

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.

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