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TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#259226: Oct 28th 2018 at 6:04:40 PM

Also, there's a couple of other things that worry me.

Full disclosure - I'm Indian. I came here to study sometime in 2015, and finished my Master's Degree. I was lucky enough to get hired within 9 months of graduation, and I'm about to begin work. What I'm worried about is this pretty harsh rhetoric against foreigners.

I mean no ill-will - I just came here like so many others looking to make a better life. Yet for some reason I'm being put in a class of "bad people" simply because I was born under a different flag.

Today Trump is focusing on Latinos, Middle-Easterners and people from places like Nigeria, Cameroon and so on. How much longer before he decides to take a snipe at South Asians?

I'll also admit that when he first got elected I had high hopes - he'd promised to overhaul the immigration system. Make it more like the one the Canadians have - allow skilled workers to immigrate easier.

I'm completely disillusioned given recent events. Don't even know what to think.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#259227: Oct 28th 2018 at 6:05:13 PM

The Dems might gain one, but even then the Republicans will still control the senate due to Pence.

The Dems have a very small chance of taking control (17%), they would need at least one state to have an across the board polling error in their favour and for them to do well in all the other states.

Now polling errors do happen and there are some senate races that haven’t been polled, but they’re generally safe ones that aren’t going to cause an upset.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259228: Oct 28th 2018 at 6:13:50 PM

To be precise, the Dems have a 32.2% chance of gaining at least one seat in the senate. Whereas the Republicans have a 50.3% chance of gaining at least one seat. (The remaining the 17.5% chance is 'the overall balance in the senate is unchanged')

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#259229: Oct 28th 2018 at 6:16:55 PM

"Today Trump is focusing on Latinos, Middle-Easterners and people from places like Nigeria, Cameroon and so on. How much longer before he decides to take a snipe at South Asians?"

His former chief advisor Steve Bannon had been pushing for limiting Asian immigration long before Trump took office. I don't know how harsh his current advisors are towards South Asia, but it's safe to say they're cut from the same cloth.

What's keeping him from doing anything right now is that Indians aren't migrating en masse at the moment. Trump can't unilaterally block immigration, so he's doing the next best thing by keeping the peoples who are migrating the most out with trumped up national security scares.

TechPriest90 Servant of the Omnissiah from Collegia Titanica, Mars, Sol System Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Servant of the Omnissiah
#259230: Oct 28th 2018 at 6:18:29 PM

[up] Heh, Trumped up.

I hold the secrets of the machine.
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#259231: Oct 28th 2018 at 6:51:39 PM

You'd think with their political alignments becoming opposite of what they once were over time, the Liberal and Conservative parties would have renamed themselves to avoid confusion.

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TroperOnAStickV2 Call me Stick from Redneck country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Call me Stick
#259232: Oct 28th 2018 at 7:15:47 PM

[up] There's probably some design in that. To be fair, I'm probably breaking Hanlon's Razor (how will Hanlon shave now?).

Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#259233: Oct 28th 2018 at 7:30:45 PM

Other people have explained the odds for the House and Senate but one thing that I feel the need to point out is that come 2020 the situation will flip in that the Republicans will have a map almost as bad for them as the 2018 map is for Democrats.

So if we can avoid losing too much ground then we can make up or even exceed losses.

And if best case scenario we take the Senate (which is implausible but not impossible) then we can do even better come 2020.

So Senate wise things are not as bad as they look long term, even if 2018 is historically bad.

Also, both the House and especially State legislatures have very real power so it would be a mistake to fixate only on the Senate. And unlike the Senate, our odds are quite excellent in both.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 28th 2018 at 10:32:16 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#259234: Oct 28th 2018 at 7:43:11 PM

[up][up]It's probably not malice per se. More like slow progression and what have you. Also brand power.

Leviticus 19:34
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259235: Oct 28th 2018 at 8:17:17 PM

So CNN was responable for a MAGA Nut trying to blow them up?

The Fake News is doing everything in their power to blame Republicans, Conservatives and me for the division and hatred that has been going on for so long in our Country. Actually, it is their Fake & Dishonest reporting which is causing problems far greater than they understand!

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#259236: Oct 28th 2018 at 8:24:02 PM
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#259237: Oct 28th 2018 at 8:25:17 PM

[up] I think it’s fine. Sometimes humor is the best way to deal with the unthinkable.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 28th 2018 at 11:26:15 AM

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#259238: Oct 28th 2018 at 8:31:42 PM

Today Trump is focusing on Latinos, Middle-Easterners and people from places like Nigeria, Cameroon and so on. How much longer before he decides to take a snipe at South Asians?
Considering Ajit Pai is South Asian, they are probably not high on their priority list.

Edited by CookingCat on Oct 28th 2018 at 8:32:38 AM

singularityshot Since: Dec, 2012
#259240: Oct 28th 2018 at 11:28:19 PM

Is it bad that I imagine Trump holding the wrists of (an anthropomorphic representation of) CNN and forcing CNN to hit themselves whilst saying "Stop bombing yourself, stop bombing yourself."

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259241: Oct 29th 2018 at 3:29:02 AM

Who's the longest ever lived person that was part of a president's cabinet?

Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#259242: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:12:13 AM

I was watching Fox News this morning, and I was really surprised at how they were attempting to turn college into yet another of their imagined cultural war issues. This would be unthinkable in my country, where it is appropriately viewed as a place of learning, above all, where some teachers very occasionally find time for political musings.

If I was an uninformed viewer, I would assume it was a place where professors allowed absolutely no dissent or pupil interventions and the students were all no-free speech absolutists.

Life is unfair...
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#259243: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:12:33 AM

I got a list right here!

[up][up]

Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 29th 2018 at 5:12:53 AM

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#259244: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:40:31 AM

Article on the violence of the last few days and how Trump, his admin, the GOP, and right wing media fomented it on purpose.

Ordinarily, a politician cannot be held responsible for the actions of a deranged follower. But ordinarily, politicians don’t praise supporters who have mercilessly beaten a Latino man as “very passionate.” Ordinarily, they don’t offer to pay supporters’ legal bills if they assault protesters on the other side. They don’t praise acts of violence against the media. They don’t defend neo-Nazi rioters as “fine people.” They don’t justify sending bombs to their critics by blaming the media for airing criticism. Ordinarily, there is no historic surge in anti-Semitism, much of it targeted at Jewish critics, coinciding with a politician’s rise. And ordinarily, presidents do not blatantly exploit their authority in an effort to terrify white Americans into voting for their party. For the past few decades, most American politicians, Republican and Democrat alike, have been careful not to urge their supporters to take matters into their own hands. Trump did everything he could to fan the flames, and nothing to restrain those who might take him at his word.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#259245: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:04:13 AM

When you fan of flames hatred your hands will get burned too,that is to say,Trump or someone close to him could end up being the victim of his own violence,the bomber was critical of Trump too,and it isn't a huge leap to suggest that as well as endangering himself Trump has put future Presidents at risk

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#259246: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:14:01 AM

Trump not only refuses to take responsibility, he goes so far as to victim blame the people who were targeted. Especially CNN.

Disgusted, but not surprised
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#259247: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:31:36 AM

This is why you can't take any calls for unity he says seriously. Because later in the same day he'll violate his own call and mock his opponents. We saw it repeatedly in the last two weeks, since every other day he's been doing a rally and wanted to hype up the crowd, and apparently the only way to do that is to be his usual bully self.

And the results of this irresponsibility? "CNN SUCKS" was a chant at said rallies. This is only a few days after having to evacuate because of bomb threats. Absolutely appalling.

Edited by speedyboris on Oct 29th 2018 at 8:39:39 AM

SciFiSlasher from Absolutely none of your business. Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#259248: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:33:12 AM

[up][up][up]Didn't someone else post that article a month or two back?

Yeah, that was me.

What Did You Think Would Happen? From The Root, by Michael Harriot.

Maybe the hardest I’ve ever laughed and the hardest I’ve ever been punched happened on the same day for the same reason. I don’t even remember what my older cousin was trying to cook, but I know it involved toasting four pieces of bread. Ever the impatient one, Reggie loomed over the toaster, wondering what was taking the appliance so long. Was this thing even on?

He must have been really hungry because, after a minute or so, he bent over the toaster to see if the elements were heated (I must admit, this is just a rough guess of his motives; we’ve never really discussed this incident in depth). And just as Reggie’s eyes were peering directly into the slots, about an inch from the appliance, it happened.

When the bread was ejected, tiny crumbs of baked bread flew into Reggie’s eyes, at which I laughed for days. But it wasn’t just the sight of breadcrumbs in my cousin’s eyes that made me laugh. It was the sentence that still doubles me over with laughter every time I think about my cousin calling for help from our maternal grandparent by screaming:

“Grandma, I think I’m blind ... I got toast in my eye!”

...

It will happen again. More people will die specifically because of the kind of environment that this president has created. He has enabled and legitimized hate. Normal, balanced people won’t likely go as far. They just might simply use the n-word in the Winn-Dixie or call the police on a cookout. But it all ties back to Trump’s America.

The same thing that makes Trump’s minions laugh and chant will eventually make us all cry. We cannot be surprised when someone puts white supremacy into a toaster and white hot hate and fear pops out.

This country is blind. America has hate in its eye.

"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#259249: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:27:39 AM

the bomber was critical of Trump too

Normally if you're critical of someone you don't festoon your property with imagery depicting them as some sort of heroic figure.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#259250: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:31:35 AM

I think he got him mixed up with the guy who shot up the synagogue.

Disgusted, but not surprised

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