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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#258851: Oct 26th 2018 at 6:27:54 AM

I don’t get it. The package addressed to Cory Booker was also found in Florid(s), meaning that it was also misaddressed. How could a guy who ended up building multiple (admittedly rather incompetently assembled) explosive devices be this dumb?

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 26th 2018 at 9:32:52 AM

Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
#258852: Oct 26th 2018 at 6:33:44 AM

Was it a written or printed label?

Handwriiten? That's odd. Printed? That's a copy/paste error that didn't get caught.

speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#258853: Oct 26th 2018 at 6:41:29 AM

Minor question, but has anyone here heard of a site called Twitchy?
There's a brief Wikipedia article on it. To answer your question about whether it's a Neo-Nazi site, "no, but..."

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#258854: Oct 26th 2018 at 6:43:46 AM

[up][up][up][up] While it’s true that any country is vulnerable, it’s false to say that we’re always balancing on a knife’s edge. Sure, there’s the potential the US could become a dictatorship, but we’re not “a few bad decisions away”. And moreover worrying about a dictatorship that isn’t going to happen is, like I said, obfuscating actual concerns.

It’s like focusing all your energy preparing for a meteor strike but never wearing your seatbelt. Let’s focus on what’s actually going on rather than worrying about what ifs. That’s how we keep democracy working.

Edited by archonspeaks on Oct 26th 2018 at 6:45:04 AM

They should have sent a poet.
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#258855: Oct 26th 2018 at 6:53:24 AM

Apparently the package intended for Booker was intercepted in Florida but addressed to his NJ residence. I guess that means the point of origin is probably in the general vicinity of Florida, right?

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#258856: Oct 26th 2018 at 6:57:22 AM

Sigh, Florida Man strikes again it may seem

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#258857: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:00:38 AM

Maybe that's why dws was the terrain address on them all, she was local.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#258858: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:01:18 AM

Nah. For once, this isn't Florida Man. He's been very clear: this guy is Florids Dud. tongue

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#258859: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:03:55 AM

Flori-dud

It’s like focusing all your energy preparing for a meteor strike but never wearing your seatbelt
I gotta remember this one

Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 26th 2018 at 8:05:52 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#258860: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:18:50 AM

Again, I fully believe Trump could have told Jenner and other LBGT that hed fight for them and do his best to help them.

Because, again, he's a liar.

Yes, and she believed him because she was a selfish moron who wanted to believe that a man who chose Mike Pence as a running mate could possibly have LGBT interests in mind.

The real reason she supported Trump was that she liked those tax cuts and/or racism. All of this are just lies to pretend that she was just a giant moron instead of a giant moron who's also a terrible person.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#258861: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:20:00 AM

In other words, they're not actually going to be doing anything important. It's all one big stunt.
It's a stunt that will have a measurable effect on the Republican base. Trump can point to it and claim that he called out the military to "deal with" illegal immigration, and the Fox News viewers will eat that up with a spoon.
She was simply deluding herself into thinking there was still a place for her in that club; trying to be a Republican and a transwoman when those identities are inherently immiscible without some level of self-hatred or denial
Are there still any openly gay Republicans left, or have they all been driven away?
Banning voter suppression is kind of vague. Saying "all early voting stations must run for the entire week, period" is much more succinct. As well as making it illegal to be in charge of the voter rolls when you're running for office, ala Kemp. And making it illegal to take people off the voter rolls for any fucking reason.
As much as I hate the way the GOP is abusing all of these, all of your proposals come with their own issues as well. Keeping polling places open for a whole week requires a great deal more funding; being unable to remove people from the voter rolls means leaving dead people, and imprisoned felons, able to vote; actually not being in charge of the rolls while running for office is a good one, let's implement that one.
The fact that elections are not a national holiday and all the selective voter id laws are a big problem.
Making election day a national holiday is really going to screw over all those minimum wage workers. Businesses won't close, many of them literally cannot afford to nor can their communities; and then you're giving those workers a choice between going to vote, or grabbing a shift at holiday pay instead and making some extra cash.
How likely is it that enough machines can get rigged like this to outright steal the election?
Which election? Keep in mind all the races in the midterm are local, at the most they directly affect the state they are in. Stealing one or two races? Easily doable. If we see Republicans keep the House, or even win more seats than they currently hold, then you can basically accept that the US is no longer a Democracy.
Trump considering executive order banning all migrants from southern border and sending the army there could be a first step or trial run toward martial law, or a closed off dictatorship like North Korea...
Trump convincing the military bureaucracy to close off the southern border is more unlikely than ten tropers simultaneously winning the lottery. Take a deep breath, it'll never happen.
Now a suspicious package sent to James Clapper
Who's James Clapper? I can't load that article at work.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#258862: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:22:39 AM

Clapper was, among other things, the former Director of National Intelligence under Obama. He is also a frequent Trump critic, like the other 11 or so targets.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#258863: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:26:10 AM

It's a stunt that will have a measurable effect on the Republican base. Trump can point to it and claim that he called out the military to "deal with" illegal immigration, and the Fox News viewers will eat that up with a spoon.

Eh, let's not be hasty. They'll like it but that doesn't mean that it will necessarily have a measurable impact, it's possible that they'll approve but it won't significantly change their voting patterns this midterm.

As much as I hate the way the GOP is abusing all of these, all of your proposals come with their own issues as well. Keeping polling places open for a whole week requires a great deal more funding; being unable to remove people from the voter rolls means leaving dead people, and imprisoned felons, able to vote; actually not being in charge of the rolls while running for office is a good one, let's implement that one.

Imprisoned felons voting is a plus not a minus in my eyes, furthermore considering how incredibly rare voting fraud is I don't really see any real problem with having dead people on the voting rolls. The possible benefits far outweigh the downsides that I'm seeing.

Making election day a national holiday is really going to screw over all those minimum wage workers. Businesses won't close, many of them literally cannot afford to nor can their communities; and then you're giving those workers a choice between going to vote, or grabbing a shift at holiday pay instead and making some extra cash.

And leaving it as a business day helps them... how? I am highly skeptical that this is actually true, or even if there's a cost that it's not outweighed by the benefits.

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#258864: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:28:07 AM

I don’t get it. The package addressed to Cory Booker was also found in Florid(s), meaning that it was also misaddressed. How could a guy who ended up building multiple (admittedly rather incompetently assembled) explosive devices be this dumb?

The addresses are printed off to evade handwriting analysis, so he probably only wrote FLORIDS once and then printed it however many times for each bomb he made.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#258865: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:32:17 AM

[up][up]I'd also like to point out that what caused Republican voter enthusiasm to briefly surge wasn't Kavanaugh getting appointed to the Supreme Court, but instead the possibility that he wasn't going to be. People tend to be more inclined to vote when they feel they have something to lose, which is also a large part of why there are so many signs toward a Blue Wave. So if the Republicans think that Trump is taking care of the border and they have nothing to worry about, where's the incentive to vote?

Edited by kkhohoho on Oct 26th 2018 at 9:32:31 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#258866: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:37:06 AM

Exactly, this could very well reduce their turnout if anything.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 26th 2018 at 10:37:51 AM

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Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#258867: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:44:57 AM

It occurs to me that if these were indeed sent from Florida, that could explain why Debbie Wasserman Schultz was on the return address for at least some of those - being a Florida Congresswoman, she might have been more prominent in this guy’s mind than she would have been in other parts of the country, even with the DNC controversies.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Oct 26th 2018 at 10:45:32 AM

Oh God! Natural light!
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A procrastination in of itself
#258868: Oct 26th 2018 at 7:54:47 AM

Thing is the Soros package was aparently hand delivered, so either that means the bomber has an accomplice or theyare located near Soros.

So far it seems like they out a ton of packages in the mail over a 1-2 day period and hand delivered the Soros package at either the start or end of that.

Meaning that it should only be a few more days before all the packages get I Ded within the postal system, as postal collection workers have probably been put on the lookout for any more packages going into the postal network.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#258870: Oct 26th 2018 at 8:06:06 AM

[up]I almost wish I could be as divorced from reality as he is. Almost.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#258871: Oct 26th 2018 at 8:07:32 AM

Reuters notification

"Person taken into custody in Miami area regarding suspicious packages - law enforcement source" - Get updates at Reuters.com

BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#258872: Oct 26th 2018 at 8:09:12 AM

They'll like it but that doesn't mean that it will necessarily have a measurable impact, it's possible that they'll approve but it won't significantly change their voting patterns this midterm.
It might not change their voting patterns, but if it keeps shoring up his Approval numbers, that encourages more politically apathetic Americans to support him as well.
furthermore considering how incredibly rare voting fraud is I don't really see any real problem with having dead people on the voting rolls. The possible benefits far outweigh the downsides that I'm seeing.
At some point, those dead people need to come off. I'm less worried about dead people voting, and more about the voter database becoming so unwieldy to operate that is entirely useless.
And leaving it as a business day helps them... how?
What benefits people more would be expanding early voting places and the ability to vote by mail. Those are concrete benefits. Adding a new Federal holiday takes a lot of work, and as with every single other fucking holiday we have, people working minimum wage jobs aren't the ones getting the day off. Making Election Day a holiday is a solution but not IMO the ideal solution.
So if the Republicans think that Trump is taking care of the border and they have nothing to worry about, where's the incentive to vote?
Some will be less willing to put out the effort to vote; some will be more motivated since now they have proof that Trump is having Mexicans shot at the border. We already have one lunatic mailing bombs around; how many more will decide to "help" Trump by stopping those evil™ Democrats from restraining the powers of their god-emperor?

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#258873: Oct 26th 2018 at 8:12:02 AM

IGNORE

Edited by kkhohoho on Oct 26th 2018 at 10:16:05 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#258874: Oct 26th 2018 at 8:15:26 AM

What benefits people more would be expanding early voting places and the ability to vote by mail. Those are concrete benefits. Adding a new Federal holiday takes a lot of work, and as with every single other fucking holiday we have, people working minimum wage jobs aren't the ones getting the day off. Making Election Day a holiday is a solution but not IMO the ideal solution

Why not both?

We can have a federal holiday so people who need it to vote can vote and we can have more early voting places so people who can't afford to use a Federal holiday can still vote.

Some will be less willing to put out the effort to vote; some will be more motivated since now they have proof that Trump is having Mexicans* shot at the border. We already have one lunatic mailing bombs around; how many more will decide to "help" Trump by stopping those evil™ Democrats from restraining the powers of their god-emperor?

I don't think that many will respond like that.

When they're predisposed towards seeing their side as winning then this isn't really going to change that, it'll just be more evidence that they're doing well and thus why spend the time voting?

It's hardly a certain thing but I just don't see any reason to assume it will spur a significant number of people to vote.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 26th 2018 at 11:30:26 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#258875: Oct 26th 2018 at 8:29:35 AM

We don’t have a problem with Radicalized White Males...

Kroger Shooting Suspect Tried to Enter Black Church Before Killing 2, Police Say

A gunman who killed two people at a Kroger supermarket in Jeffersontown, Ky., on Wednesday tried to enter a predominantly black church minutes before the attack, the police said on Thursday.

The man, Gregory Bush, 51, of Louisville, was arraigned Thursday on two counts of murder and 10 counts of wanton endangerment. He was ordered held with bail set at $5 million. The police said they were investigating the motive for the attack, which killed Vickie Lee Jones, 67, and Maurice E. Stallard, 69.

Both were black, while Mr. Bush is white, and the son of a witness said his father heard the gunman make a racist remark during the episode, though the police said they could not confirm that account. Mr. Bush has a history of mental illness, Chief Sam Rogers of the Jeffersontown Police Department said at a news conference on Thursday.

The police said there was no indication that Mr. Bush knew either of the victims, nor did he have any known connection to the grocery store.

Chief Rogers and church officials said that surveillance video had recorded Mr. Bush’s unsuccessful attempt to enter the nearby First Baptist Church of Jeffersontown shortly before the attack.

Billy Williams, the church administrator, said eight to 10 people were inside the church when Mr. Bush arrived after a midweek service. A church member in the parking lot grew alarmed when she saw him aggressively pulling on the historic church’s front doors. Mr. Bush drove away after less than 10 minutes.

“There were 70 people here at our weekly meeting service just an hour before he came by,” said Mr. Williams, who was among them. “I’m just thankful that all of our doors and security was in place.”

Granted, he apparently did suffer from schizophrenia, but my point still stands.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 26th 2018 at 11:31:41 AM


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