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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#258601: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:13:09 AM

I do not believe this will serve as a wakeup cal. The media was wringing its hands more over Mitch McConnell's dinner being protested. The MSM largely only calls for civility when they can let Republicans off easy, and even then, it's a 'same thing both sides'

NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#258602: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:29:17 AM

Trump on tv just said "In times like this, we must unify"

Again, fuck him. And fuck his supporters

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#258603: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:29:53 AM

What did I miss!? Wow...

Okay, uh, I'm guessing this is probably a single person then. A group probably would have released a message or communique.

Also, this will in no way be a wakeup call. Freaking Chuck Schumer himself was 'both sides'ing the freaking Proud Boys because someone threw a brick through a Republican's window.

[up] By unify, of course, they mean 'file in behind the Republicans'

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#258604: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:30:15 AM

Van Jones will be on TV soon with "this is when he became President."

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#258606: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:36:35 AM

That return address is bothering me.

DWS. Any spare bombs that didn't make it to their targets were meant to be routed to DWS. Not the Clintons. Not Obama. The person the bomber was most interested in killing was Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

That bothers me. It bothers me because I can't imagine why a radical conservative bomber would see DWS as their biggest axe to grind. Why she would be their priority target.

My gut tells me that this is a Bernie Bro, not a Nazi. Someone who bought into the "DWS STOLE the primary from Bernie!" rhetoric. Possibly someone pissed off that their candidate didn't win the midterm primary and make it onto the ballot, and is now carrying out a grudge attack against "the crooked DNC".

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 24th 2018 at 12:37:52 PM

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#258607: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:39:09 AM

At this point I wouldn't point fingers at any group of people until more evidence emerges.

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#258608: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:39:31 AM

If that was the case, Maxine Waters wouldn't have gotten one.

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#258609: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:39:48 AM

[up][up][up] I find this a bit doubtful. If it really was a Bernie Bro, its unlikely that the target list would have looked like this. George Soros? Obama? Maxine Waters?

Also, DWS was explicitly not the first target. She was an afterthought in all of this.

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Edited by AzurePaladin on Oct 24th 2018 at 2:44:33 PM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#258610: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:42:08 AM

More likely it is a right winger who wants to be clever. THINK! It was very unlikely that any of those packages would actually be rerouted to anywhere.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#258611: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:42:45 AM

How many of these packages have turned out to be bombs, and how many just unrelated things that just happened to arrive today?

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#258612: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:42:54 AM

We can just add "false flag operations" to the list of things Republicans and the alt-right project onto others.

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#258613: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:46:02 AM

Also, DWS was explicitly not the first target. She was an afterthought in all of this.

She's the return address. That makes her a backup target for every bomb. If they weren't delivered to their target address, they were to be delivered to her.

Clinton got an attempted bomb, Obama got an attempted bomb, but DWS got every attempted bomb.

Like I said, it seems weird to me that a Nazi would want to make sure that if anyone was killed in the bombings, it would be DWS. I feel like a radical right-winger would have sent them all to the Clintons as the backup target.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 24th 2018 at 12:47:19 PM

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#258614: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:47:19 AM

Tobias I think you might be letting your personal bias get the better of you, DWS was the key secondary target because she’s a former DNC chair, keep in mind that if the bombs all get to their target she is unhurt, that doesn’t make her the focus.

Also a Bernie support would be focused more heavily on Clinton, Obama and Soros don’t make sense in that instance.

I am surprised that Pelosi hasn’t apparently had one sent to her, though we don’t know if all the packages have been found yet, some may yet be in the postal system.

Anyone got a full list of the bombs currently identified?

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#258615: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:49:18 AM

[up][up] Yes. The backup. Not the main goal. The reason they chose a relatively obscure Democrat was so that they didn't need to put their own address on it. Also, why would a Bernie Bro target CNN?

It feels like you came to the conclusion first and worked backwards. There are more holes in it being a Bernie Bro then their are with it being a Right Winger.

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Edited by AzurePaladin on Oct 24th 2018 at 2:51:33 PM

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#258616: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:51:55 AM

I've just never, over the past two years, heard a single Republican give a single solitary shit about DWS. Trump doesn't make speeches about DWS. Sarah Huckabee Sanders doesn't try to stir up resentment towards DWS. There are no anti-DWS tweets coming out of the White House.

Republicans wanting DWS's head on a plate isn't a thing the way it is for Obama or the Clintons. The only people who care about her are the Bernie Bros. It's a weird choice to target.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 24th 2018 at 12:52:36 PM

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#258617: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:53:44 AM

Right now, it's Hillary Clinton, George Soros, Former President Obama, John Brennan and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

Governor Andrew Cuomo has been ruled out - false alarm. Trump has also been ruled out - false alarm.

Honestly, I'm surprised there hasn't been one to Nancy Pelosi yet - she's the most high profile target in the Democrat Party right now. Perhaps the fellow who sent this simply overlooked her. Or worse, it's on it's way and people don't know about it.

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#258618: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:55:01 AM

[up] Don't forget CNN and that other News Station/Campaign Headquarters (I can't remember right now who, what, or if that was just a false alarm).

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#258619: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:55:12 AM

Yeah, Pelosi and Schumer seem like they'd be key targets, so there may be bombs en route to them already.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#258620: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:55:38 AM

Going after Soros and major Trump enemies? I don't think it's a stretch this is a right winger finally reaching the logical conclusion of where their rhetoric has been leading

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#258621: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:56:07 AM

[up][up][up] The package sent to CNN headquarters was addressed to Brennan. The one sent to the San Diego Union Tribune (which shares an office with Senator Harris or her campaign, if I heard correctly) turned out to be a false alarm.

Edited by Blueeyedrat on Oct 24th 2018 at 11:56:49 AM

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#258622: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:56:50 AM

We can't speculate on the political leanings of the attacker(s) at this point, we have no credible data.

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#258623: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:57:29 AM

There's no general Bernie Bro hate towards most of the other targets though, like Waters or Soros. Again, she was the backup, and its unlikely that the terrorist was smart enough to try to deliberately get them sent back to her.

This is your personal biases at work, Tobias.

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#258624: Oct 24th 2018 at 11:58:23 AM

It doesn’t make sense if it’s a “who do Republicans hate most” list of targets, but it makes sense if it’s a “who are key players in the democrats electoral machine” when done by an idiot (which it has to have been, because all terrorists are idiots).

In the end though it’s to early to speculate on motive beyond the obvious hatred of democrats, the type of hatred isn’t going to be identifiable at least until we have a full list of who has been targeted.

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