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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The world doesn't care about right or wrong, he did have a chance and thus talking about whether it's rightful or not is just dangerous.
This reasoning is one of the factors that caused him to barely win.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 19th 2018 at 2:10:57 PM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangWilliam Jennings Bryan
, who ran 3 times for President and lost all 3, says the precedent has already been shattered.
But unless Hillary Clinton gets a massive boost in popularity in the next 2 years, it'd be really stupid for her to run again, and it'd be even worse for the Democrats to support her again.
There is no greater demonstration of how thoroughly people overestimated the progression of civil rights than that anyone ever seriously thought that a wealthy heterosexual Christian white man didn't have a shot at winning the Presidency. Regardless of who he is.
2016 was a wake-up call to millions of Americans that the warnings those of us dubbed "Social Justice Warriors" had been trying to blare were true: prejudice truly is alive and well in America, and not just some historical footnote from a less civilized time. It was a slap in the face to whites who thought minorities were considered equals, to men who thought feminists were just crazy women telling lies about men, to straights who thought the gay marriage ruling forever ended any question about LGBT inclusion, etc.
Of course Trump had a chance. The rich Christian straight white man will always have a chance. Obama's Presidency didn't end privilege, and I think people sorely underestimated the sheer number of Majority Demographic individuals who would be receptive to the message, "Those other people are trying to take what's rightfully yours, but I'll put you back on top again!"
For too long, Americans allowed themselves to believe that equal rights had been forever achieved and hate no longer dwelt in the heart of any American. That prejudice consisted entirely of some dude in Louisiana who's just mad that he couldn't marry his cousin. That racism is dead. Sexism is dead. Humanity has accepted good in its heart and there are no battles left to ever fight again.
And then Trump happened, and now I think people are finally waking up to the reality that history is still happening around us as we speak. The battles are still happening. Prejudice is alive and well in the heart of America and you, yes YOU, not your ancestors or some cool names from a history book, have to step up and do something about it. The movement for social rights is more than escapist fiction.
The rich white man who talks openly about sexual assault gets to be President. The rapist gets put on the Supreme Court. The racist white cop who shoots a black teenager seventeen times won't even be fired, but the Hispanic kid who had a quarter-ounce of weed in his pocket goes to prison for forty years.
It's not an isolated incident. It's not a lone wolf. It's not some liar blowing their story out of proportion to get attention. It's America. It's who we are as a nation, and many voters are finally realizing that.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 19th 2018 at 12:49:23 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I don't want Hillary to run a third time. Get someone new and fresh in there who isn't saddled with decades of smear campaigns and who drove people to vote for Trump because they hated Hillary a wee bit more.
And I say this as someone who voted for her in 2016.
Edited by speedyboris on Oct 19th 2018 at 2:18:41 PM
I want Hillary to run again if she's the best candidate we have. I don't want her to run again if we have a better candidate.
That's why we have primaries.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Just as long as there's little to no strife between the candidates this time around, we can pull it off.
ASAB: All Sponsors Are Bad.Those weren't the qualities that Trump brought to the table, though that certainly was there. Trump utterly CREAMED all of the other candidates from the Republican Party which were present on that. The GOP is also always struggling to get any of Trump's press when they're all ostensibly that too.
Though I'm not sure that it wasn't a message, "I am the richest whitest man of them all."
Pence being the most Christianiest of them all to fill in the hole.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 19th 2018 at 1:24:25 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.I think Andrew Ryan is the same kind of white privilege as Comstock, just less overt.
Objectivism is the other side of Trumpism aside from white Christianity.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 19th 2018 at 1:40:51 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.I mean, if that was meant to be a comment on his Orange-ness, it's either a joke that too cryptic too be funny, or an indication that you don't understand exactly what White means in this context. Like, ethnically speaking, he's as white as anybody- his family came from Europe ~100 years ago, and it's a rare person who gives a shit about anything beyond that. The fact that his skin-tone is somewhat unusual is, strangely enough, basically irrelevant to his white-ness.
@Charles Phipps: Comparing Trump to Comstock or Ryan isn't fair. He's more like Frank Fontaine.
Leviticus 19:34Fontaine was actually a decent businessman.
:)
Part of what I loved about Andrew Ryan is that he assumed he'd be God in his little kingdom but was irritated that in an actual competitive environment that he was soon running out of money. So, he did what he always accused the polluters in America of doing by using the government to prop himself up.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Oct 19th 2018 at 1:50:19 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.And just as usual, comparing Trump to anyone ends up being an Insult to Rocks.

The assumption that Trump could never win and it's all on her is part of the reason he won, it bred complacency.
My own comparison was a known and experienced powerhouse losing to someone who, by all rights, should have never had a chance.
Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 19th 2018 at 12:10:23 PM