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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#257826: Oct 16th 2018 at 1:10:52 PM

If they do, they're wrong. Which is kinda the point I've been trying to make for half a page.

He was a Saudi-born journalist who lived in America and was assassinated in Turkey.

I can't believe the US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia hasn't chimed in yet.

Edited by Larkmarn on Oct 16th 2018 at 4:17:44 AM

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#257827: Oct 16th 2018 at 1:18:48 PM

Oh the Saudis behind this knew there would be no medals or parades for this, much as all as Trump would like to give them for journalist murder to say nothing on his race or citizenship.

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#257828: Oct 16th 2018 at 1:55:52 PM

I don’t know where anyone is getting the idea that Turkey is part of Southern Europe form but they’re wrong, a small part of Turkey extends into Southern Europe, that does not make Turkey a European country.

Also in the US Southern Europeans have often been an oppressed minority, being European dosnt inherently make one part of the White majority because White in the US has often not been about skin colour as much as Anglo-Saxon heritage.

Oh and Kazakhs are also not European, they’re Central Asian.

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#257829: Oct 16th 2018 at 1:59:38 PM

Let's face it, if you were not born in America rich and white you are the enemy to Trump. Doesn't matter if you are European or Canadian, this is the guy who will turn on you for not hating minorities enough.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#257830: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:00:28 PM

Not just there...I am not quite sure when the Europeans decided that South and Eastern Europeans are just nice neighbours and that those Turks and Muslims are the true problem, but it was at one point within the last 30 years. Meaning it is a fairly recent development.

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#257831: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:01:22 PM

That's a bit reductive.

If you give him money, he'll like you.

Which is why we're in this mess; he likes the Saudi Arabian monarchy because they give him money.

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#257832: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:11:30 PM

He must really love Saudi Arabia. All that oil. All those terrorists buying guns. Willing to execute Washington Post journalists. Are Kim and Vlad going to get jealous?

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StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#257833: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:12:34 PM

@Fourth Spartan 56

What I meant was Trump and his people keeps doubting someone despite them giving exactly the proof they asked for. Obama's birth certificate isn't hidden away somewhere, and Warren gave evidence she wasn't lying about her ancestry. So Trump calls it fake or backpedals, or his supporters try to pretend they were trying to trick or troll them to save face. The difference is that Obama's citizenship never should have been in doubt, but Warren's claim was doubtful. I'm not comparing Obama and Warren, I'm comparing how Trump attacks people. But I don't really care enough about it to continue discussing it.

The Daniels case getting thrown out sucks.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#257834: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:12:52 PM

Here's the last week tonight segment on it.

At first they tried to pass them off as "tourists", because 15 men arriving on a charter plain at three in the morning, carrying a bone-saw, and leaving early the next morning sounds like such a great vacation.

Yesterday, CNN reported that they are planning to say that they were only planning to interrogate and kidnap him.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 16th 2018 at 5:22:48 AM

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#257835: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:22:34 PM

To quote Stephen Colbert: "Saudi Arabia is saying it was a interrogation that went wrong. Let me ask a question: Any interrogation that includes 15 men and a buzzsaw, how does that go right?".

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#257836: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:25:10 PM

Yeah, we just wanted to abduct him and torture him, but we accidentally killed him instead, and chopped him to bits with a bone saw we conviently also happened to have on hand. Oops?

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 16th 2018 at 7:19:29 AM

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#257837: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:52:01 PM

Hey now, nobody is perfect. These mistakes are made from time to time.

Don't catch you slippin' now.
Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#257838: Oct 16th 2018 at 2:52:49 PM

[up][up]What prepared plastic underlay and disposal bags? Nothing like that here. (Well, probably not anymore, no.)

And, even if they were... DIY. The walls needed doing. Honest.

Edited by Euodiachloris on Oct 16th 2018 at 10:53:53 AM

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#257839: Oct 16th 2018 at 3:56:14 PM

Also in the US Southern Europeans have often been an oppressed minority, being European dosnt inherently make one part of the White majority because White in the US has often not been about skin colour as much as Anglo-Saxon heritage.

Ironically enough, Melania is Southern European (Slovenes are related to Italians, especially Venetians (and there is a notable Slovene minority in Friuli-Venezia Giulia), and they are part of the Mediterranean and directly border Italy to the east), though Slovenia is also included in Central Europe.

Edited by CookingCat on Oct 16th 2018 at 4:20:33 AM

Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#257840: Oct 16th 2018 at 4:16:22 PM

[up] Dude, past a certain point, just use quote blocks.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#257841: Oct 16th 2018 at 4:37:25 PM

Speaking of possible investments Trump has in Saudi Arabia, this bit from an old WaPo report, suddenly becomes relevant:

Other potential projects remain a mystery. In August 2015, as Trump’s presidential campaign began to take flight, Trump registered eight separate companies with names such as THC Jeddah Hotel and DT Jeddah Technical Services, financial-disclosure filings show. Their names followed a pattern set by Trump companies connected to hotel deals in foreign cities: in this case, Jiddah, the second-biggest city in Saudi Arabia.

Four of those companies, in which Trump was named president or director, remained active at the time of Trump’s May financial filing. The disclosures do not provide more detail for the companies, and Trump representatives did not respond to requests for comment.

On Aug. 21, the same day Trump created four of the Jiddah companies, he told a rally crowd in Alabama: “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”

In January, a few months after the Jiddah companies were created, Trump told Fox News that he “would want to protect Saudi Arabia” from a potential Iranian threat but added that “Saudi Arabia is going to have to help us economically” and referenced the billions of dollars the Arab kingdom has made off the oil trade.

He even tweeted about it.

For the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!

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#257842: Oct 16th 2018 at 4:41:50 PM

With even Faux News being fake news now that they are not blindly loyal, what are the chances of something like TNN or Trump News Network state sec television that will be the only news source allowed?

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#257843: Oct 16th 2018 at 4:43:08 PM

[up]Pretty much zero. Doing so would be brazenly unconstitutional and any proposal would be wildly unpopular, even among the majority of his supporters. It would also set a precedent that would be potentially harmful to the GOP.

In addition, doing so is pretty unnecessary as the GOP and Trump both get enough mileage out of legal and not-obviously-illegal methods.

Edited by Protagonist506 on Oct 16th 2018 at 4:49:52 AM

Leviticus 19:34
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#257844: Oct 16th 2018 at 4:43:47 PM

[up][up] I thought that was already Fox and Friends.

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#257845: Oct 16th 2018 at 4:48:18 PM

[up][up][up] Considering CNN, BBC and MSNBC are still allowed, none. [Mod edit: Please knock that off.]

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 16th 2018 at 7:13:14 AM

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#257846: Oct 16th 2018 at 4:57:59 PM

Yes, that is already Fox and Friends. Not being a real news program means they are under no legal obligation for fair andaccurate reporting.

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#257847: Oct 16th 2018 at 5:03:37 PM

Yeah. The Republican end goal is not banning MSNBC or CNN, it's passing enough voter suppression and gerrymandering to turn our democracy into a managed democracy and then buying out the corporations that own major news services. After all, why ban media when you can just co-opt it? And why send troops into the streets when you can send the FBI or local police department to kick down the doors of known malcontents?

If you want to look at what the Republicans want to create then just look at Poland under the Law and Justice party.

Still, thankfully it's not too late and we can crush them electorally before they crush us physically.

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megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#257848: Oct 16th 2018 at 5:15:41 PM

This is actually pretty cool. The Outdoor Industry Association put out a voting guide, highlighting key races and issues in public lands and conservation in this coming election, that’s worth checking out.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 16th 2018 at 8:17:32 AM

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#257849: Oct 16th 2018 at 5:29:32 PM

I'm not worried about America Polandizing, myself. The thing is that it's very hard to get a managed democracy unless you start from a position of widespread popular support, which the Republicans don't have. Cheating and gerrymandering only go so far, and America has enough independent news that it'll be very hard to create a unified information bubble.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#257850: Oct 16th 2018 at 5:32:38 PM

[up][up] Another spot where a canny Democrat could crossover gun owners/rural voters: hunting. Improved conditions in and access to WM As are big ticket items on those agendas, and hunters have historically been conservationists as well.

Democrats need to start peeling off the Republican base. It's easier than ever right now, and if they can make it stick the Republicans will be screwed.

Edited by archonspeaks on Oct 16th 2018 at 5:32:53 AM

They should have sent a poet.

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