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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
The House having to vote for President wasn't even the weirdest thing about the 1824 election. John C. Calhoun was both Andrew Jackson's and J. Q. Adams's running mate, and served as Vice-President for both in turn.
The Era of Good Feelings was American presidential politics on drugs.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Oct 12th 2018 at 9:39:44 AM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."This is an alternate history/history in hindsight question as its a political one. The election of 1836 saw the Whigs trying to throw it to the House of Representatives, so I'm wondering if had they denied Buren the 148+ needed to win, which they would have if they got Pennsylvania
For that matter, if the third/fourth party effort was big enough and/or the two main elections were closer in the 1856, 1860, 1892, 1912, 1924 and 1968 elections (the only ones where a third party got electoral vote) to force the House of Representatives to decide, who'd it would ultimately go to.
Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Oct 13th 2018 at 6:13:19 AM
1856: Buchanan, because a useful idiot was better for everyone's perceived best interests than the progressive Fremont;
1860: I'm putting this down as "constitutional crisis," since it probably would have led to the institution of a runoff system, since the country was so fractured, it's unlikely any one candidate would have claimed a majority in the House.
1892: Cleveland. The House was like 60% Democrat coming into 1892.
1912: Probably still Wilson — the GOP was split in half.
1924: Probably still Coolidge. The Democratic convention that year had a ton of ballots because of the factionalism. It would be reflected in an HR vote.
1968: Probably still Nixon — he would have been the ideal second choice for Dixiecrats — like he actually was, but now only confirmed. Southern Dems would have never been able to stomach Hubert Humphrey.
Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Oct 12th 2018 at 1:45:23 PM
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."Trump Reportedly Directed Staff to Increase His Media Presence to ‘Flood the Zone’ Before Midterms
Oh great. Welp, buckle in, everyone, it's gonna be an obnoxious month.
Good, more ammunition for us.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangWhether he actually shrugs it off or not doesn't really matter (the fact that he barely won 2016 makes me skeptical that he actually does), we aren't targeting Trump we're targeting Republicans. Thus every little bit helps.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThere's the situation in Georgia, but the NAACP filed a lawsuit over that so there's hope. Otherwise, such things are not impossible, but that doesn't mean they're inevitable or capable of stopping a Blue Wave.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThe answer to that is to get people out and voting en masse despite every manipulation the Republicans can come up with.
The United States is not Iran, so an Ahmadinejad '09 can't happen here (Tempting Fate, I know). If the people make their voice clear, the Republicans will have to obey it. They can't simply call out the people with the guns to squash voters.
Exactly this, gerrymandering and voter suppression just raise the number of votes you need to win. Thus a high enough turnout can overcome them.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

Which is a low low bar.
Edited by MarqFJA on Oct 12th 2018 at 3:01:38 PM
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