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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#257226: Oct 9th 2018 at 6:17:33 AM

I don't think that it was. Due to there being other accusers it made her more believable, and at least one of the accusation was backed by a witness remember that people talked about it back in the day.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#257227: Oct 9th 2018 at 6:20:59 AM

For a change of pace, here’s a stange little story of the saga of #Him Too

Him Too: How Pieter Hanson's mother made him internet famous

If you've seen some weird posts about sons on social media with the hashtag #Him Too, you might be justified in feeling a bit confused. "This is MY son", begin the majority of tweets, before listing the achievements of everyone from horror villain Norman Bates to Back to the Future's Marty McFly.

It all began with a post from a concerned US mother on Twitter.

This is my son. He graduated number one in boot camp. He was Awarded the ASO award. He is a gentleman who respects woman. He won’t go on solo dates due to the current climate of false accusations by radical feminists with an axe to grind. I VOTE. #HimToo

Speaking to the BBC about his newfound internet fame, Florida resident Pieter Hanson answered the question on everyone's mind.

"I'm not afraid to go on dates!" he joked. "It's my mum just being a little silly, I wouldn't put too much thought into it."

A "little silly" maybe but the parodies soon appeared, with everyone's favourite pop star/meme icon Rick Astley becoming one of the most popular recreations.

This is my son. He was #1 on the charts. He won’t go on solo dates even though he never gave up, let you down, run around, or deserted you, make you cry, say goodbye, tell a lie nor hurt you #HimToo

Others soon followed, with a parody of comedian Nathan Fielder proving a particular highlight - but credit must go to comedy writer Emlyn Crenshaw for her creative effort.

The "current climate of false sexual accusations" in the original tweet may have been referring to controversy surrounding the appointment of new Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh in the United States. US President Donald Trump has since labelled sexual assault claims against Kavanaugh a "hoax", with conservative commentator Candace Owens popularising the hashtag #Him Too to defend the judge. The issue has become so divisive that it was perhaps unsurprising when 'Blue Star Mom 3' faced a backlash on Twitter. But few on social media paid much thought to the person in the photo who was swiftly becoming the face of #Him Too. So he set up a Twitter account to set the record straight, complete with a recognisable pose.

That was my Mom. Sometimes the people we love do things that hurt us without realizing it. Let’s turn this around. I respect and #BelieveWomen . I never have and never will support #HimToo . I’m a proud Navy vet, Cat Dad and Ally. Also, Twitter, your meme game is on point.

Here’s a few more that I like

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 9th 2018 at 9:31:00 AM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#257228: Oct 9th 2018 at 6:21:32 AM

[up][up]The thing is, the CNN article is quoting several Democratic politicians who have less than kind — sometimes outright caustic — words for Avenatti over the subject.

[up] You messed up the quoteblock markup.

Edited by MarqFJA on Oct 9th 2018 at 4:24:46 PM

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#257229: Oct 9th 2018 at 6:32:17 AM

Frankly, I am not exactly convinced that Democratic politicians are the best when it comes to reading the public. Sorry. They mean well, but they also make some really stupid moves.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#257230: Oct 9th 2018 at 6:59:55 AM

I've seeing claims that Christine Ford has "dropped" her case against Kavanaugh following him being voted into the SC and that she does not want him impeached if the Democrats do retake Congress. Can someone please confirm this?

That's mostly false, she didn't drop anything but she did decide not to pursue it in the court of law. Probably because the poor woman has suffered enough, she absolutely did not say that that the Democrats should not impeach him.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
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#257231: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:02:23 AM

I mean. It's hard to pursue justice in a court of law against someone who can potentially appeal a verdict all the way to himself if need be.

As is so often the case for rape victims, any effort to bring Kavanaugh to justice is likely to be very expensive materially, emotionally, and personally for Ford while ultimately achieving nothing. The law is, as always, on the side of rape.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 9th 2018 at 8:06:22 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#257232: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:08:14 AM

Avenatti believes he's waging a war for America's soul and the only thing that matters right now is attacking the Republicans at every juncture because otherwise, the country is fucked.

This has pissed off a lot of people.

However, the thing is that the Republicans fire both barrels at every opportunity and if he doesn't, his clients will be ground down. Putting their opponents on the defensive is not the worst strategy because the only other option is to remain silent.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#257233: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:09:09 AM

I mean. It's hard to pursue justice in a court of law against someone who can potentially appeal a verdict all the way to himself if need be.

As is so often the case for rape victims, any effort to bring Kavanaugh to justice is likely to be very expensive materially, emotionally, and personally for Ford while ultimately achieving nothing. The law is, as always, on the side of rape.

Exactly. There are scumbags using that it was "political" all along and thus false but they were going to say that anyway so it doesn't really matter. Just Republicans not caring about sexual assault #24306.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#257234: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:11:20 AM

Putin's leash on the oligarchs is not the thing which people wanted. Mostly, he persecuted and prosecuted a number of oligarchs for bullshit reasons to make it clear they weren't allowed to influence politics.

He also restored some of the social safety net which existed before, which he could afford to do because of oil prices.

But the oligarchs were put down to solidify his power and most of them got the memo....switching to unchallenged support of Putin. Which they were allowed to continue with full state support thereafter.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#257235: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:19:54 AM

From Reuters notifications

"Nikki Haley has resigned as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations" - Get updates at Reuters.com

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#257236: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:21:02 AM

The only thing keeping me from feeling happy about that is knowing Trump will appoint someone worse.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#257237: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:22:05 AM

Or decide the UN suck and he doesn't need to appoint anyone.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#257238: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:23:32 AM

Or decide the UN suck and he doesn't need to appoint anyone.

That may be the least damaging option, short of choosing some moderate Republican. Which uh... says a lot.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#257239: Oct 9th 2018 at 7:31:37 AM

It actually is a fairly important distinction because if people are ordering those hits to please Putin, that means that the culture of murder extends beyond him. Which in turn means that "Wait for Putin to die" is not a viable option for dealing with Russia; his M.O. will outlive him.

It’s both, more or less. It’s probably half to gain favor and half “veiled comment” style orders, but there’s both a culture of murder and Putin and his inner circle’s fingers everywhere.

They should have sent a poet.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#257240: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:14:48 AM

My general view is that Putin has left instructions for the KGB...err, sorry FSB to handle any problems that threaten his regime.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#257241: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:22:17 AM

[up] that makes the most sense to me. I can’t imagine putin himself would necessarily personally order every assasination, but more just give orders to eliminate threats to his regime, and let others work out the details.

Edited by megaeliz on Oct 9th 2018 at 11:32:01 AM

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#257242: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:31:05 AM

Very rarely are any of the murders carried about by agents though. It's usually some hired thug on a local politician's payroll.

Oh really when?
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#257243: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:46:13 AM

The only thing keeping me from feeling happy (about Nikki Haley resigning) about that is knowing Trump will appoint someone worse.

That's part of my thinking; that Trump got Haley to resign so that Trump can appoint someone to be the replacement, to get Democrats to fight the appointment, to keep Republican morale high for the Midterms.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#257244: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:48:12 AM

That's part of my thinking; that Trump got Haley to resign so that Trump can appoint someone to be the replacement, to get Democrats to fight the appointment, to keep Republican morale high for the Midterms.

I'm going to be honest, you're giving him far too much credit. It's more than possible that she resigned because she's an ambitious Republican and doesn't want to be tied to a sinking ship.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
#257245: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:57:21 AM

I've got to agree. Haley always struck me as someone that's laying the groundwork for an eventual shot at the White House.

archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#257246: Oct 9th 2018 at 8:57:30 AM

[up][up][up][up] Local politicians are typically involved in more garden-variety corruption, not with murdering Kremlin opponents. Some of the incidents in the past have been tied to operatives of various varieties, some to hired guns, and more than a few with no culprit which seems to indicate operatives again.

Like I mentioned above, I’d say it’s half “suggestion” from the upper echelons and half initiative.

Edited by archonspeaks on Oct 9th 2018 at 8:57:33 AM

They should have sent a poet.
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#257247: Oct 9th 2018 at 9:36:09 AM

Would the UN ambassador even be able to say or do anything without getting Trump's approval first?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#257248: Oct 9th 2018 at 9:38:18 AM

It's starting to seem like the only way to cut down on sexual assault is teaching more women to defend themselves, because the men that feel like they can do that shit don't listen to anything. I also don't see a way we can actually increase punishments or convictions for sexual assault, because so often there's very little proof save the victim's testimony, which isn't enough. What do you guys think?

Edited by Friendperson on Oct 9th 2018 at 9:37:45 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#257249: Oct 9th 2018 at 9:43:10 AM

It's starting to seem like the only way to cut down on sexual assault is teaching more women to defend themselves, because the men that feel like they can do that shit don't listen to anything. I also don't see a way we can actually increase punishments or convictions for sexual assault, because so often there's very little proof save the victim's testimony, which isn't enough. What do you guys think?

I'm positive that this wouldn't make things better. Focusing on telling women to defend themselves just puts the responsibility onto the victim, obviously teaching self-defense is good but if the power structure is aimed against you then knowing judo or something won't help.

Furthermore, I take issue with the idea that this is the only way to address it. That just seems rather preemptive and defeatist to me. We know that Toxic Masculinity drives sexual assault and thus reducing that will reduce sexual assault, so there absolutely is something we can do.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 9th 2018 at 12:47:21 PM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#257250: Oct 9th 2018 at 9:43:21 AM

[up][up]Horseshit.

We shouldn't put it all on women. Why put the responsibility of reducing rape on them? That's basically Victim Blaming.

Edited by M84 on Oct 10th 2018 at 12:42:56 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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