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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#256701: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:05:47 PM

How many times does it have to be pointed out that if there's enough yes votes otherwise, Manchin would vote yes.

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#256702: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:06:03 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#256703: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:06:48 PM

[up][up] Thing is Manchin looks to be the deciding vote, due to one senator being absent.

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#256704: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:07:43 PM

See links on the previous page mentioning private jets.

3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#256705: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:08:03 PM

[up][up][up]I. Lets not encourage idiots.

II. Not significant

III. What makes you think thats a good thing

Edited by 3of4 on Oct 5th 2018 at 10:10:44 AM

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DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#256706: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:08:53 PM

[up]x5 Doesn't matter to me; Jones, Heitkamp, and every other Red State Dem is voting No, which is the right thing to do until there's a real investigation. Republican Lisa Murkowski is most likely still going to vote no. Manchin's re-election odds would've taken a hit, but he's pretty much guaranteed the seat no matter what this year. He could've done the right thing and still won by 2-3%; instead he's doing the wrong thing and is going to win by ~10%.

Morals are important; if we're only in this for the win, and not for the message, then the Democratic Party might corrupt just as badly as the Republicans have.

[up]x4 Yeah, no, let's not do that either.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Oct 5th 2018 at 4:10:49 AM

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#256707: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:10:44 PM

If anything, Kavanaugh getting confirmed will actually help Dems. It'll certainly spur them on to vote even harder

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thatguythere47 Since: Jul, 2010
#256708: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:12:22 PM

It was really obvious that the maybes were in a sick game of chicken as they didn't want to be the reason the vote failed/passed. Manny voted yes to move it forward so Mur felt safe voting no and Collins had already said she'd be announcing later in the day so she could see where everything stood. With Flake voting yes she didn't want to be the reason the vote failed.

Pack [awesome] the [awesome] court

Put three on that bitch. the republicans get pack in power and put four? put eight. Sixteen? Thirtytwo. Eventually everyone will be on the court and we can finally have a direct democracy.

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#256709: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:12:43 PM

[up][up]That's certainly the hope.

A lot of democrats campaigning on the line if 'vote for me, I'll actually investigate' might turn into a pretty big boost.

Edited by Cris_Meyers on Oct 5th 2018 at 3:12:41 AM

Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#256710: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:14:06 PM

I mean... Manchin probably knows WV's voting habits better than I do, so I'm sure he's factored this in, but it seems to me that this would hurt his chances of victory. He still needs the Democrat's voter base to win, and your average Republican is still gonna prefer someone who votes with their party 100% of the time over someone who does so 20% of the time. And surely you can't very well rely on the notoriously fickle Democrat voter base to continue to go 'beggars can't be choosers' after being spit on this dramatically.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#256711: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:19:32 PM

As I said yesterday, confirming Kavanaugh is electorally stupid.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#256712: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:20:27 PM

Considering Manchin‘a lead in the polls I don’t think he’s doing this for tactical reasons, he honestly supports Bret and thinks he should be on the Supreme Court.

Honestly at this point I couldn’t fault any West Virginian democrats for staying home, “is pro-sexual abusive, alchaholic perjury committers being on the Supreme Court” is a red line I can’t fault people for having.

[up]X8 I see that the jet offer has been made, not that it has been accepted.

Edited by Silasw on Oct 5th 2018 at 8:25:09 AM

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#256713: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:23:21 PM

The thing is for once conservative politicians are thinking of their long term greed over the short term.

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The Shadow
#256714: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:23:23 PM

[up][up][up] I take it you mean that as a good thing?

Edited by MrHellboy on Oct 5th 2018 at 3:22:55 AM

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#256715: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:30:46 PM

[up][up][up] I take it you mean that as a good thing?

It's the repubs shooting themselves in the foot.

  1. They remove any energising effects of a Supreme Court seat being on the line.
  2. They piss off even more people.
  3. This delegitimises the Supreme Court—particularly when organisations on their own side were questioning Kavanaugh's temperament.
  4. Common sense should dictate not putting the most scandal-ridden person you can find in one of the highest offices for the rest of their life because it works against you.
  5. See #3 for how this could easily justify court packing rather than accepting that it's an age-based lottery (particularly if anything more surfaces)

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#256716: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:32:07 PM

There are already people screaming on Game FA Qs about this being the end of Democracy and Trump now being a defacto dictator because of Kavanaugh's inevitable confirmation and belief of the President being immune to criminal prosecution or civil suits

Edited by CookingCat on Oct 5th 2018 at 1:32:59 AM

MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#256717: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:33:00 PM

[up][up] I see. Thank you for explaining that. I feel better now

Edited by MrHellboy on Oct 5th 2018 at 3:36:39 AM

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3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#256718: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:33:42 PM

Yeah, lets not give into hysteria just yet. Again: It's only over once the votes have been counted.

And even then, even if this is a battle bitterly lost...the next battle is 4 weeks away.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#256719: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:34:28 PM

[up][up][up] Let’s not use Game FA Qs as a source for insightful political analysis.

This battle isn’t quite over yet, and even if it doesn’t go our way it’ll help us in the midterms.

Edited by archonspeaks on Oct 5th 2018 at 1:34:51 AM

They should have sent a poet.
MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#256720: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:37:14 PM

It's odd.

I used to be the most pessimistic, fearful paranoid person. But since Trump got elected, I've been making much more of an effort to not lose hope and give in to despair. I'm more politically active now than I've ever been

You'd think it would have the opposite effect

Edited by MrHellboy on Oct 5th 2018 at 3:36:51 AM

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RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#256721: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:37:28 PM

Oh, and it's a further argument that it shouldn't be a lifetime appointment only addressable by 2/3 of the Senate

CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#256722: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:44:20 PM

Literally the only thing keeping me going is the fear of eternal darkness when I perish, as cmiller4642 says that Trump basically has unlimited power under Kavanaugh...

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#256723: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:45:26 PM

Like I said, Manchin is a piece of shit. He's ruined the state of West Virginia and contributed deeply to the various crises involved here.

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MrHellboy The Shadow from A world of my own Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
The Shadow
#256724: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:46:01 PM

[up][up]Can we not with the doom and gloom? It helps nobody, and it gets my anxiety back up

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#256725: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:46:14 PM

[up][up][up]Not really? Trump can't just order the Supreme Court to make anything he wants law. That's not how the Court works.

Edited by kkhohoho on Oct 5th 2018 at 3:45:58 AM


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