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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#256676: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:45:33 AM

My thought was more is there a reason not to force the tiebreaker as a kind of "this is where things stand" statement sort of thing.

I forget, did Gorusch need the tiebreaker or did he get Democratic votes?

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#256677: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:45:39 AM

[up][up] possible. Heck, it's even strategic because if Pence had to Tiebreak Today, you could bet on Mitch rescheduling and walking in Daines by gunpoint.

If I am willing to give Manchin credit.

Edited by 3of4 on Oct 5th 2018 at 5:46:15 PM

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#256678: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:48:26 AM

Let's just wait for the confirmation vote.

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#256679: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:50:08 AM

I just hope that if Manchin votes yes tomorrow, the DNC looses his number forever.

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#256680: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:53:11 AM

[up][up][up][up]Gorsuch had 51 Republican votes. 3 red-state Democrats (Donnelly, Heidtkamp and Manchin) supported him because the writing was on the wall and they couldn't stop him.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#256681: Oct 5th 2018 at 8:53:30 AM

Well, Collins will be saying something at 3pm about what her plan for the confirmation is, so look out for that, I guess.

I assume the 3pm time is EDT.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 5th 2018 at 4:56:15 PM

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#256683: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:29:34 PM

How long is she going to keep talking is the real question here.

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#256684: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:40:33 PM

~Star Outlaw ([1] [2]): You more or less echo things that I've said in the past. None of the "rebuttals" I've seen were convincing. Not even the "eye for an eye just leads to the whole world being blind" one, BTW.

They want a fascistic state where racism is the rule of the land? Then they should be given the same treatment that the original fascists faced in the previous century. No ifs, ands, or buts.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#256685: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:41:41 PM

Can Kavanaugh still be stopped if Manchin and Murkowski vote no?

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/2018/10/05/day-624/

Day 624: A mistake.

1/ The Senate voted 51-49 to advance Brett Kavanaugh's Supreme Court nomination. Republican Lisa Murkowski voted not to advance the nomination. She called the cloture vote "a mistake" and that Kavanaugh is "not the best man for the court at this time." Democrat Joe Manchin voted in favor. Confirmation is not assured as Sens. Susan Collins, Murkowski, and Manchin could vote differently during Saturday's final confirmation vote. Flake told reporters he would support Kavanaugh on the final vote, "unless something big changes." (New York Times / Washington Post / Politico / NBC News / Wall Street Journal)

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/05/kavanaugh-votes-confirmed-872713

How senators voted. (Politico)

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2018/brett-kavanaugh-senate-cloture-vote-count/

LIVE UPDATES: The Guardian / Wall Street Journal / CNN / CBS News

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/kavanaugh-fbi-investigation-oct-18/index.html

2/ Susan Collins is expected to announce her decision on Kavanaugh's nomination at 3 p.m. ET today. Sarah Sanders said she thinks "we should" have the Senate votes needed to confirm Kavanaugh. (CNN / CBS News)

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/05/politics/collins-kavanaugh-vote-nomination-announcement/index.html

Mitch Mc Connell said is "optimistic" after having lunch with Collins and GOP leadership. (The Hill)

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/410132-mcconnell-optimistic-about-kavanaugh-vote-after-lunch-with-collins

3/ Kavanaugh wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal arguing that he is an "independent, impartial judge" who "might have been too emotional" during his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee last week. (Wall Street Journal)

https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-am-an-independent-impartial-judge-1538695822

The American Bar Association is re-evaluating Kavanaugh's "well-qualified" rating. In a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee, the ABA referred to "new information of a material nature regarding temperament" stemming from Kavanaugh's hearing. (Business Insider)

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-american-bar-association-reevaluating-kavanaugh-well-qualified-rating-2018-10

4/ Trump mocked former Senator Al Franken for folding "like a wet rag" and resigning following multiple allegations of sexual misconduct last year. (New York Times)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/04/us/politics/trump-al-franken-minnesota.html

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#256686: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:43:05 PM

[up]Tomorrow? Yes. The GOP is down one man (Sen Daines is at his daughters Wedding) so Senate is only 99 people. With both Manchin and Murkowski a No thats 50 Noes and 49 yes and then the Confirmation vote failed.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#256687: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:45:17 PM

If confirmation fails, could Kavanaugh be nominated again? It sounds ridiculous to do so but, well, Trump... Need I say more?

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#256688: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:46:46 PM

At this rate, they won't be able to have the vote tomorrow because Collins will still be talking.

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#256689: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:46:47 PM

Was hearing the Montana rep who punched a reporter before his special election is allow the use of his private plane for the missing Senator to allow said senator to miss his daughter's weddding reception to vote if necessary.

"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."
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#256690: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:48:44 PM

Source? Else it's just the rumors flying around crazy now.

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#256691: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:49:39 PM

Yeah, since they're a man down tomorrow, I think we're good. Murkowski's unlikely to suddenly become a Yes, and Manchin's unlikely to want to turn the entire party against him.

megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#256692: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:50:23 PM

One thing to remember is that the Supreme Court is a big ticket issue for Republicans.

If he does get in, I’m going to guess they would get complacent.

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#256693: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:50:56 PM

Don't celebrate yet, this could still go belly up. Lets just hope not.

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#256694: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:51:36 PM

Its hard to say. This would be presented as a big win, just the thing to rally a flagging base around.

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#256695: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:53:56 PM

It took her three quarters of an hour to actually get around to saying yes. For some reason. Does she like the sound of her voice that much?

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TacticalFox88 from USA Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Dating the Doctor
#256697: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:58:52 PM

Manchin is a yes.

Ugh.

Fuck.

If he wasn't in such a blood red state, I'd want his ass gone immediately.

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#256698: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:58:55 PM

Manchin just said he's voting yes. It's over

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#256699: Oct 5th 2018 at 12:59:20 PM

[up][up][up]Question is, is he or is he calling Mitch 'From the car'

"Terrible, traffic here, just *terrible* traffic *whispers* Save a dance for me, sweetie."

[up] Its only over when the votes being counted. *sigh* But it doesn't spell good, unless Manchin is pulling a fast one to reassure Mc Connell. Or the rest of the party is taking the next 12 hours to explain to him what happens if he does vote yes.

Edited by 3of4 on Oct 5th 2018 at 10:05:31 AM

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#256700: Oct 5th 2018 at 1:02:42 PM

Well, screw Manchin too, along with Collins. At least Murkowski has a heart (or she realized that Alaska's the only Red State that appears to vehemently oppose Kavanaugh, seeing as both Governor and Lieutenant Governor are against him too).

Here's hoping for a quick and speedy investigation, followed by impeachment, of Kavanaugh come 2019-2021.

Edited by DingoWalley1 on Oct 5th 2018 at 4:02:24 AM


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