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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#256576: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:14:29 PM

The anger of the protestors are obviously.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#256577: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:24:38 PM

The Republicans don't care about the electoral consequences of appointing Kavanaugh. Most of them are safe (most Senate seats up for election this year are held by Democrats) and even if it does cost them their majority, they just appointed an extreme right-wing nutbar to 25-40 years on the highest court in the land. Furthermore, they will never back down on trying to push an anti-choice judge, and Trump will never withdraw the nomination of a candidate with such strong views of broad presidential legal immunity.

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#256578: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:25:58 PM

@Raineh Daze: If the Republicans cared for any of those things, this entire debacle should not even reach this point to be honest. This is no longer about logic. This is all about spite and pride.

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#256579: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:26:24 PM

Also, even assuming the democrats get super lucky and get both the house and senate back, impeaching kavanaugh is going to be really difficult.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#256580: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:30:55 PM

[up][up] It's why they would.

[up] If dems get the 2018 Senate, then that's stupidly good odds for the 2020 senate map.

At which point by dint of Kavanaugh's appointment to the Supreme Court you have the best reason to just add some more justices because appointing him utterly disgraces it. It's stupid.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#256581: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:39:49 PM

I don't know...it looks like a hollow victory to me. They have let all their masks fall. And at the end of the day, the Republicans haven't really won fair and square for quite a while, without the electoral college and systematic gerrymandering, the Democrats would have been in power for nearly the whole last 20 years.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#256582: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:42:28 PM

If dems get the 2018 Senate, then that's stupidly good odds for the 2020 senate map.

At which point by dint of Kavanaugh's appointment to the Supreme Court you have the best reason to just add some more justices because appointing him utterly disgraces it. It's stupid.

Exactly this, the idea that the Republican's irrationality is somehow a wise strategy simply isn't true. Kavanaugh can cause them a great deal of damage if appointed and likely has already caused damage, he offers nothing that a less controversial judge would not offer.

Pointless hurting yourself in the name of sunk cost fallacy and owning the libs is just stupid.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#256583: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:49:08 PM

The Republican party's biggest advantage is that they simply don't care about anything. They don't care about American prestige, or American security, or anything beyond hurting as many people as possible. If more Americans paid attention to how they were getting screwed it never work, but unfortunately...

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#256584: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:55:53 PM

[up]No quite, I think the republican have convinced themselves that they NEED to stay in power in other to save america, is kind of a messiah complex were american and themselves are one and the same, therefore they need to be powerfull if america wants to be one.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#256585: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:57:45 PM

I don't think so. Not after how much they're trying to sweep the Russia collaboration under the rug.

Oh really when?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#256586: Oct 4th 2018 at 4:58:23 PM

Frankly, I don't care. I just hope that they are a dying breed and that their latest blunder will hasten their extinction, at least in terms of political relevance.

At least if there is still a democracy when the Democrats have a chance to be in power.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#256587: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:01:26 PM

[up][up]I do think so, the more I see republicans they more it resemble the chavista party here in venezuela, that sense of "we know best" which allow to be blind to their own corruption?....yeah I have experience that.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#256589: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:03:37 PM

Republican Senator Steve Daines will be absent from a possible floor vote this weekend on account of his daughter's wedding.

Either he told Mc Connel and was ignored or he purposefully did not tell him.

In the case of the latter, I think it's a dodge to avoid voting. Frankly considering how close the vote is I don't think the former is very likely.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 4th 2018 at 8:03:16 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Grafite Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Less than three
#256590: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:18:02 PM

When is the vote on the Senate floor going to be held? It seems like an eternity has passed. This is kind of a make or break moment for the status of men's impunity in the country. Just hoping there isn't yet another bite in the ass for all the people against what Trump represents when they have already had too much of it.

Life is unfair...
DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Asgore Adopts Noelle
#256591: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:22:15 PM

[up]The procedural vote (the vote to vote) is tomorrow, I don't know when the confirming vote will, but it will be soon after (like a few days later).

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#256592: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:24:10 PM

[up]Actually, the confirming vote could be as early as Saturday.

StarOutlaw Since: Nov, 2010
#256593: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:25:48 PM

I'm feeling pretty depressed and angry over all this and that one article posted earlier. I'm going to Singapore next year to finally marry my girlfriend, and it's likely I'm going to be staying there for the long term.

I'm still planning on absentee voting if I can. Still, the whole thing just leaves me bitter. I'm at the point where I'm done being polite to these dregs, but I can't afford to do anything that will get me fired or worse.

Going to a protest feels like what I should do, but I don't know if it'll make any difference in TN. Maybe if I took the weekend to go to a bigger one in DC, but money is always an issue.

Honestly, I'm constantly tempted to commit low scale vandalism or just getting a "Fuck Trump" bumper sticker, but that's never going to do much good. Best I can hope for is that my vote this year in TN makes a difference, since it is supposed to be a close race.

I don't want to leave my country knowing that it'll forever be in the grip of Republicans. Kavanaugh getting to the SCOTUS is just one more step in consolidating power for them. I don't want to be a doomsayers, but I really need some kind of win for justice, truth, and decency as of late.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#256594: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:30:49 PM

I don't want to leave my country knowing that it'll forever be in the grip of Republicans. Kavanaugh getting to the SCOTUS is just one more step in consolidating power for them. I don't want to be a doomsayers, but I really need some kind of win for justice, truth, and decency as of late.

I completely understand how you feel, his appointment would be a travesty against justice and all that is decent. Still, there is the very real chance that his ascension could pave the way for a post-2020 Democratic Congress+President to pack the courts and institute some real reform.

Nothing is set in stone and even if things look grim there is still opportunity for the forces of progress.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 4th 2018 at 8:30:31 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#256596: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:37:58 PM

God damn it

Oh really when?
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#256597: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:39:11 PM

An intern for Representative Shelia Jackson Lee (D-TX) has been arrested, charged and fired for doxxing several US Senators on Wikipedia during the Kavanaugh hearings last week.

Meh, it's just an intern. They practically grow on trees.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#256598: Oct 4th 2018 at 5:49:43 PM

It may be more an optics issue. Republicans are good at pouncing on any single thing that someone on the Democrat side does wrong and unleashing the full power of their Psychological Projection.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#256599: Oct 4th 2018 at 6:04:42 PM

Need to emphasise more he was immediately fired.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#256600: Oct 4th 2018 at 6:11:26 PM

It may be more an optics issue. Republicans are good at pouncing on any single thing that someone on the Democrat side does wrong and unleashing the full power of their Psychological Projection.

She's a single representative, and I'm not even sure if her seat is vulnerable. Let's not make a mountain out of an extremely unimpressive molehill.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 4th 2018 at 9:14:00 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

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