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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I'm referring to a different metric, but I also feel the need to point out that the one you're using is from a single poll which IIRC was revealed to be highly flawed.
A few pages back I posted data from the Pew research center
which showed that 82% of Democratic supporting voters care about the Supreme Court vs 72% of Republican-supporting voters.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Oct 4th 2018 at 5:01:19 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang![]()
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Yes, but from my understanding, Justices normally don't get into court cases the session they're sworn in, and this session of the SC has already started. Gorsuch was sworn in in early 2017, when the 2016-2017 Session for the SC was on, and he didn't rule on any of those decisions. Maybe I'm wrong, though.
x10 Yeah, East Asia is China, South Korea, North Korea, Mongolia and Japan, plus Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan, while Southeast Asia is Thailand, Malaysia, Myanmar/Burma, Cambodia, Laos, The Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia, Brunei, Timor-Leste/East Timor and Vietnam, as well as the Australian territories of Christmas Island and the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.
And now I'm getting report that a Whip working for Sen. Grassley (R-TN) has not gotten a response from 4 Republican Senators on Kavanaugh's Confirmation
. The Whip is also worried that they're not gonna get any Democratic Support (which they might actually need).
Fingers crossed, but I'm holding my breath.
Honestly, at this point I'm just not going to make any assumptions one way or another until the vote is called, it's just not an efficient use of energy otherwise.
Also there better be no Democratic defections, that kind of stupidity and immorality should not be permitted within the Party.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangNot at this point, anyway. Is anyone other than Manchin at risk of doing so?
Also, I've lost track, are we still at the stage of voting whether or not to bring Kavanaugh before the full Senate? If so, isn't that a much smaller committee vote? If so, are we basically waiting to see if McConnell thinks he has enough votes to pull it off in full Senate before going to committee?
Edited by sgamer82 on Oct 4th 2018 at 3:39:01 AM
I strongly disagree on Manchin, he votes reliably 80% of the time and thus is much better as Democrat instead of a Republican. He'll only vote Yes if he is sure that the Republicans have the votes. Which admittedly may make him a bad person but he's useful enough.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangI highly doubt Manchin would vote Yes if he thinks he'll be the deciding vote. Because in that scenario, the entire Democratic party- including both the people who elected him and the people he works with every day- will be extremely pissed at him. Like, voting against the party can be tolerated if it's not a hugely important issue and/or his vote alone wouldn't have changed things, but here, if he votes Yes and two Republicans vote No... That'd be really bad for him.
I am pretty sure that if Kavanaugh is confirmed (which he likely will be, we all should have known that from the start) that democrat turnout is going to increase. He hasn't actually been confirmed yet, keep that in mind.
Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 4th 2018 at 6:44:59 AM
On the other hand, it show how dire tihng is if something as strightfoward as picking a SCOTUS can dry the republicans in term of effort put it.
I mean, I feel that if we translate this to a actual war, it will be a one of those "why we start this in the first place?" in how quicly everything scalated.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"![]()
Long-term political gain because they could get literally anyone less divisive in after the midterms and use "vote for our nominee!" as a way to try and boost turnout that won't be available (and is outright reversed) if they confirm a petulant sexual predator against the wishes of major church organisations, legal scholars, and the damn bar association?
Edited by RainehDaze on Oct 4th 2018 at 12:08:47 PM
Right,he's weathering the storm so to speak,you have people actually protesting (saw it on news) against him and you have lots of other people/organisations who are voicing their objections,if it were anyone else they might buckle under the strain but he's a stubborn ass and won't budge
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My favorite law professor and mentor was on the original list of 650 law professors last night; several other professors from my law school are on the expanded 1,700 member list. Although now I’m very very curious as to which professors haven’t seen it, versus which outright refused to sign it, and why.