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Imca (Veteran)
#255801: Sep 27th 2018 at 12:58:26 PM

BTW, can someone remind me what are the odds of the US political scene becoming a one party-dominant system on the federal level under the Democrats (assuming the Republicans collapse and, for once, no sane second major party emergesnote ), and the drawbacks/risks of such a system? From what I've gathered, such a system is not mutually exclusive with maintaining a healthy democracy, though the two current examples of entire countries having such a system (Singapore and Montenegro) do have the common factor of being really small, so that perhaps is a major reason why it's viable there.

The odds are not high, but such a system is worse then what even the US has...

The example I was thinking of is Japan, which is considered a democracy and which in its entire post WW 2 history has only had an opposition party win a parliamentary majority once. The reason it's considered democratic (unlike Singapore which is an example of "soft" authoritarianism.) is because, at least traditionally there hasn't been strong party discipline within Japan's dominant party, allowing an acceptable amount of democratic discourse to occur within the single party.

It's far from ideal, but it's preferable to a party system where the opposition consists of complete lunatics.

Is not really correct at all, even with party discourse, every one toes the line with the parties major goals..... Which I mean I guess is probaly fine with the US Democratic party, but it is a slippery slope with a chance to get the LDP.

...

Who are the big reason I haven't moved back, because at least here the republicians have a chance of being dethroned, we are stuck with one party that is hostile to civil rights, toes the neo-imperials, and engages in mass rebisionisim for.... well forever, there is no hope in sight, no sign for change.

One party systems are aweful, even if democratic, and should never be something desired.

Edit: Also Capsase I would like to point out that LDP support is actualy pretty poor, not enough to be elected normaly, and they win instead through abusing election system.... sound familiar?

Edited by Imca on Sep 27th 2018 at 1:01:58 AM

TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#255802: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:04:21 PM

Haven’t been able to watch Kavanaugh testify live at work, (and honestly, I wouldn’t want to, especially as I’ve caught enough holes in his story already that I don’t believe a damn word he says) but from what I’m getting here and on the political thread of another forum, there isn’t a hole deep enough to toss this piece of shit down.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#255804: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:31:13 PM

Breaking: The SEC has charged Elon Musk with fraud.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#255805: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:32:53 PM

Watched a bit during lunch. Why were they talking about polygraphs? If they're bringing up polygraphs, either they're idiots or they're trying to convince idiots.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#255806: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:34:46 PM

Well these are Republicans (if you mean Kavanaugh), do both are probably true

Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 27th 2018 at 2:34:43 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#255807: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:36:16 PM

[up][up] The victim took a polygraph test.

.

Edited by Swanpride on Sep 27th 2018 at 1:38:37 AM

DingoWalley1 Asgore Adopts Noelle Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
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#255808: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:41:04 PM

[up]x3 A few days before Feinstein revealed the letter she had from Ford about Kavanaugh's molesting her, Trump and members of the White House wanted to weed out 'leakers' by forcing everyone to take Polygraph Tests. Even though you and I know that Polygraph Tests are bogus, Dr. Ford took a Polygraph Test and her answers showed she was telling the truth (and I believe she is telling the truth, with or without the Polygraph Test); so if they say that the Polygraph Test was bogus themselves, they're calling Trump a moron, which they can't do.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#255809: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:46:03 PM

Kavanaugh is also a supporter of allowing employers to have polygraph tests as a condition of employment, I believe.

Bur from Flyover Country (Living Relic) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#255810: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:49:13 PM

Graham is doing a “Anything you can do I can do better!” to Kavanaugh in regards to being shouty.

PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#255811: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:49:32 PM

with everything else they're doing polygraphs

just when i thought they could sink no lower

Kavanaugh is married with children eh? Wonder what his family think...

And boy, is that arse making an arse out of himself.

If he gets the job this will be a great point of mocking for the next decade or so. Like, the GOP's rep will take a while to recover from this. At least, I hope it would.

Edited by PolarPhantom on Sep 27th 2018 at 9:52:13 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#255812: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:51:26 PM

just when i thought they could sink no lower
Well there's your first mistake right there.

Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 27th 2018 at 2:53:49 AM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#255813: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:51:48 PM

Wow...Lindsey Graham just REALLY went of the rails. This might be one of the most unhinged speeches so far.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#255814: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:52:25 PM

Kavanaugh is also a supporter of allowing employers to have polygraph tests as a condition of employment, I believe.
Setting aside what a ridiculous invasion of a prospective employee's private life that would be, aren't polygraphs notoriously unreliable when it comes to detecting lies?

Edited by Kayeka on Sep 27th 2018 at 10:55:12 AM

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#255815: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:54:44 PM

[up]Yes. You don't even have to be a pathological liar to fool one, and a lot of the time if you're just plain nervous (which you would be for most cases where you're taking a polygraph test) the machine can think you're lying even if you're telling the truth.

RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#255816: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:55:00 PM

Yes.

But he thinks they work enough to be required. Ergo his accuser is being truthful.

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#255817: Sep 27th 2018 at 1:55:03 PM

[up]

Hence the absolute mockery and derision towards it in the thread, yes.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#255819: Sep 27th 2018 at 2:24:55 PM

Someone in Congress just doxxed Lindsey Graham by editing his Wikipedia article.

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#255820: Sep 27th 2018 at 2:28:34 PM

[up][up] I read that as Bulbapedia at first. [lol]

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#255821: Sep 27th 2018 at 3:23:01 PM

I read that as Bulbapedia at first. [lol]

I did too, I guess strange minds think alike tongue

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PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#255822: Sep 27th 2018 at 3:46:45 PM

Kavanaugh is an embarrassment to all men.

Hot Take I'm sure.

tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#255823: Sep 27th 2018 at 3:51:48 PM

[up][up]"Bulbasaur!". Because I'm silly.

Edited by tricksterson on Sep 27th 2018 at 6:51:35 AM

Trump delenda est
Ludlow Since: Apr, 2013
#255824: Sep 27th 2018 at 3:56:16 PM

So, will this hearing actually achieve anything? Nothing seems to suggest that Republicans are any less willing to push through with the nomination. Hell, I imagine that even those with doubts before are digging their feet now as this has become a do or die issue for the massive Republican base.

Could a Democratic government someday in the future feasibly impeach Kavanuagh.

Eschaton Since: Jul, 2010
#255825: Sep 27th 2018 at 3:58:57 PM

I'd say it's a 99.99% chance he gets on the Supreme Court.

Ford may have made a very compelling account of personal trauma in her appearance before the American government and public. But the thing is, that does not fucking matter.

Kavanaugh knew his real audience: the Republican base, Fox News, and the president. No one else, especially not the senators who are subservient to those superior powers.

Kavanaugh spun his own aggrieved account by casting this whole inquiry as the herald of no less than the destruction of the United States itself. And fortunately for him, those in charge are more than sympathetic to this worldview; they know this is immeasurable opportunity.

An opportunity to put a firm boot down on the #Me Too! movement. An opportunity to install a judge who is receptive to the notion that the president can be above the law. An opportunity to entrench right-wing partisans into the judicial system for generations, which will have long-reaching ramifications up until the day humanity finally manages to wipe itself off the face of the Earth.

Eternal power is within their grasp. They aren't going to let go for a second, and will make sure that everyone knows it.


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