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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#255676: Sep 26th 2018 at 3:00:02 PM

Unless its somehow struck down by the Courts, yes.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#255677: Sep 26th 2018 at 3:26:31 PM

Trump's also apparently considering delaying his meeting with Rosenstein on account of the Supreme Court shannianigans.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#255678: Sep 26th 2018 at 3:47:41 PM

I think Trump's bonkers statements about him not meeting with Trudeau at the UNGA, insulting the Canadian negotiators and him making it clear he wants to follow through on Canadian car tariffs may have just been the death blow for NAFTA and Canada's trading relationship with the US forever.

I can't see the Canadian populace wanting to buy anything American-made, including movies from America, after this.

Edited by Mario1995 on Sep 26th 2018 at 6:51:03 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#255679: Sep 26th 2018 at 3:49:13 PM

Nobody is going to be stupid enough to not open up trade partnerships with the US forever because of Trump.

You really need to relax with the doomsaying man.

Edited by LeGarcon on Sep 26th 2018 at 6:48:52 AM

Oh really when?
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#255680: Sep 26th 2018 at 3:54:13 PM

Trump's tariffs are having real consequences towards our relationship with our allies. Even if Trump is gone, the shadow that someone worse than him will some day in the future be elected president will hang above the US for a long time.

Why do you think so many foreign leaders are saying it's time to stop trusting the US?

Edited by Mario1995 on Sep 26th 2018 at 6:54:04 AM

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#255681: Sep 26th 2018 at 3:55:46 PM

Trump's tariffs are real consequences towards our relationship with our allies. Even if Trump is gone, the shadow that someone worse than him will some day in the future be elected president will hang above the US for a long time.

Yes, Trump's terribleness is causing horrible damage to our soft power. That's true.

But do you know what isn't true? The idea that they could afford to just never trade with us, our economy is just too big for that. Trump is causing more than enough damage without being ridiculous about it.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 26th 2018 at 6:58:03 AM

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#255682: Sep 26th 2018 at 3:57:49 PM

[up]"But do you know what isn't true? The idea that they could afford to just never trade with us, our economy is just too big for that."

China disagrees.

Edited by Mario1995 on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:00:20 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#255684: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:00:04 PM

No china relies on America buying it's cheaply made mass produced goods,if America stopped trading them their economy would suffer,they can't afford to take the risk of aliening their biggest trading partner

[up][up]

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 26th 2018 at 10:59:38 AM

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#255685: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:00:08 PM

China is also on the verge of economic collapse and literally destroying itself with their counter-tariffs.

Also as [up] said, they're the ones wholly dependent on us buying their stuff.

Edited by LeGarcon on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:00:00 AM

Oh really when?
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#255686: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:01:03 PM

China's imposing counter-tariffs, not cutting trade.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#255687: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:01:21 PM

@Fourthspartan56: That same logic applies doubly to China and (when its economy eventually comes into its own) India. Trump is at most a symptom of the overall decline of American power, the fundamental reason for it is the "rise of the rest"; much like it became untenable for the European colonial powers to dominate the non-industrialized parts of the world with an iron fist in the early to mid 20th century, it's becoming increasingly difficult for the US to dictate world affairs as less and less of the global economy and population is centered on the United States and its dependencies/allies.

@Garcon: Just like the last 20 times people said China was about to implode?

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:06:06 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#255688: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:01:31 PM

> China is also on the verge of economic collapse and literally destroying itself with their counter-tariffs.

It's nowhere near collapsing,though the counter-tariffs aren't helping

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#255689: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:02:15 PM

Mario 1995, what exactly do you get out of acting as if the worst thing is always going to happen?

I can't imagine the stress of it must be good for you.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#255690: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:02:20 PM

[up][up][up][up]As more allegations emerge, Republicans are becoming more defensive of Kavanaugh than ever.

This won't end well.

[up]Ever been to Twitter? A lot of people have that mentality, including respected personalities like journalists and political scientists.

Edited by Mario1995 on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:06:25 AM

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#255691: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:03:55 PM

It's pretty near collapsing. There are massive soldier riots and it can't keep building those ghost cities forever to keep it's population busy.

China is going to have to drastically shift how it manages it's economy and military very soon if it wants to stay even remotely relevant as a global economic player or a local military power and all signs point to it not being able to survive such a shift without there being an upheaval.

Oh really when?
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#255692: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:07:21 PM

[up][up]Really, you're response is Twitter?

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#255693: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:07:25 PM

[up][up][up]And how does that give you the excuse to have the same mentality? And even then, they don't go quite to the same depths of pessimism that you seem to strive for.

Edited by kkhohoho on Sep 26th 2018 at 6:06:46 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#255694: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:10:25 PM

> It's pretty near collapsing. There are massive soldier riots and it can't keep building those ghost cities forever to keep it's population busy.

What soldier riots?

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#255695: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:11:22 PM

@LeGarcon: Meanwhile credible economists project China's economy as passing that of the US some time in the 2020s or 2030s. Gordan Chang (or George Friedman) is a hack, and people should really stop taking him seriously. Expecting China to just fall apart on its own is pure Hubris.

[up] Some conspiracy theory about a coup attempt back in August I think. If it were real I'm pretty sure we'd have gotten leaks about it from sources in the American intelligence community.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:15:12 AM

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#255696: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:13:16 PM

[up][up][up][up]That's where I, and practically everyone else here, gets most news.

Anyway, this allegation of Kavanaugh slamming a woman in a bar twenty years ago really puts the "he was too young" defense up in smoke. In fact, I'd be shocked if Kavanaugh didn't commit any sort of abuse during his years as district judge.

Edited by Mario1995 on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:12:49 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#255697: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:15:31 PM

> Some conspiracy theory about a coup attempt.

Right,if there was actual coup attempts in china we'd know about it because economises around the world would be having heart attacks

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#255698: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:16:10 PM

All the veteran riots all throughout Zhenjiang earlier this summer? And the earlier ones in spring in Henan?

I dunno what the hell you're on about with coup attempts. They're soldiers rioting because they have no severance pay or food.

Edited by LeGarcon on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:16:30 AM

Oh really when?
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#255699: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:17:07 PM

[up][up] We'd probably have heard about it from American IC linked sources if there were meat behind what appears to have been a social media rumor/meme on the Chinese Internet.

Edited by CaptainCapsase on Sep 26th 2018 at 7:16:35 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#255700: Sep 26th 2018 at 4:17:51 PM

Provide a source

[up][up]

Edited by Ultimatum on Sep 26th 2018 at 11:17:37 AM

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