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AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#254726: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:14:49 PM

[up] I don't disagree with you. It is interesting to note, though, that this is not her first race. She primaried Cuomo in 2014 by basically running Nixon's current campaign. Cuomo ignored her, but when election time came he did surprisingly worse than he should have. I suspect that is at least part of the reason he paid attention to Cynthia Nixon this campaign.

She also ran for Congress in 2016, and barely lost.

Edit: This is not a great pagetopper...

Edited by AzurePaladin on Sep 13th 2018 at 9:17:43 AM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#254727: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:17:46 PM

NY state primaries so far:

  • Cuomo looks like he'll get back in with a fairly strong margin. However, the Lt. Governor position, which is elected separately, looks like it will be changing as of now to a candidate who was running to be a check on Cuomo.
  • As of this moment, the IDC (a group of Democrats who had thrown the balance of power to Republicans in the state senate) are mostly getting their clocks cleaned. As of my last check nearly all of them are losing or in the fight of their lives. Only 2 look likely to remain in the senate, one is absolutely crushing the competition, the other got off to a fairly strong start, but as the count went on it's become pretty close.
  • Zepyr Teachout simply cannot win an election. Vote counting still has a long way to go, but Teachout is in a big hole against Letitia James, her main competition.

Edited by TheWanderer on Sep 13th 2018 at 10:19:23 AM

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#254728: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:23:49 PM

First one, not unexpected, though I was kinda hoping there'd be an upset.

Much better news for that second one.

Don't know enough about Teachout to judge the third, but I can't imagine there will be much of a difference between either of them in that position.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#254729: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:25:23 PM

If trump wanted Mattis gone why didn't he dismiss him sooner?

BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#254730: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:28:56 PM

Someone else convinced him not to?

Wasn't Mattis able to rein in some of Trump's horrible impulses? Uh-oh.

Do not obey in advance.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#254731: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:31:18 PM

Maybe he did.

But Trump has still done damaging things and he isn't getting more power to cause more damage, hopefully this just means that he'll do more stupid things domestically and thus weaken his position for midterms.

If Mattis is going out not much is changing, a Trump Presidency is a travesty with or without Mattis. I'm just hoping there's some political advantage to be gotten out of this if it's true.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 13th 2018 at 10:31:41 AM

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254732: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:37:10 PM

Keep in mind that the article says that if Mattis is going, it wouldn't be until after the midterms.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#254733: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:38:31 PM

Oh yeah I had forgotten that, then I just hope there's some kind of post-midterms political advantage that can be gotten.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#254734: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:39:27 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up] It seems that polling has swung against Williams, so it looks like incumbents and those favored by incumbents swept the board on the most important elections.

Edit: NYT called Lt. Governor race for Hochul. Cuomo's running mate narrowly has won her race against Jumaane Williams.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Sep 13th 2018 at 10:58:11 AM

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TheWanderer Student of Story from Somewhere in New England (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Student of Story
#254735: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:04:38 PM

Yep, Hochul got a burst of votes at the right time.

6 of 8 members of the IDC look like they're going to lose, including leader Jeff Klein. The IDC just effectively ceased to exist and I couldn't be happier.

Edited by TheWanderer on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:21:47 AM

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#254736: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:11:27 PM

And to top things off, Nixon lost, as expected. Thus ends another celebrity vanity campaign.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/13/politics/new-york-democratic-primaries-progressives-establishment/index.html

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wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
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#254737: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:22:40 PM

You know, I’m going to disagree with that rather condescending assessment. Someone needed to primary Cuomo, and it looks like six out of 8 IDC members are losing their seats. Nixon had an effect down ballot, and she forced Cuomo to tack left, for whatever good that may do later on. Power concedes nothing without a demand.

AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#254738: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:36:30 PM

[up][awesome]

I don't think her run was a 'vanity campaign', and its kinda insulting that you'd boil the race down to that. Someone was bound to do it, if not her then Teachout might have made another shot or something.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254739: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:47:31 PM

Considering she called him a DINO as part of her campaign, I'm not particularly sorry she lost.

Edited by M84 on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:50:24 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#254741: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:48:49 PM

[up][up]Although, from what has been mentioned of Cuomo here, I get the impression that wouldn't be too far off. Unless you just find the use of labels like that off-putting.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 13th 2018 at 10:48:25 AM

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#254742: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:50:10 PM

Although, from what has been mentioned of Cuomo here, I get the impression that wouldn't be too far off. Unless you just find the use of labels like that off-putting.

Considering that candidates of her ilk have turned "progressive" from an adjective to a title you have to earn, I would find it understandable to take such claims with a grain of salt.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:53:14 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254743: Sep 13th 2018 at 8:51:18 PM

[up][up][up]One of the commenters on that thread thinks it has more to do with century old gas lines, incompetent management, and operator error.

[up][up]From the article:

"I voted for him eight years ago because I remembered his dad," Nixon said of the governor and his father, the popular late former Gov. Mario Cuomo, at a rally in Brooklyn on Saturday. "And because I believed that he was a Democrat, the way he said he was. But what happened? Since he's taken office, he seems to have forgotten that he's a Democrat. He's governed like a Republican."

Edited by M84 on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:53:07 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
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#254744: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:03:16 PM

[up] I mean, considering this happened, I don't even remotely feel bad for him. 'DINO' is not in the slightest the worst insult that she could have used.

(For context: The state Democratic Party circulated a leaflet days before the election alleging Nixon did a bunch of anti-semetic things that she never did)

In other words: Pointlessly egging on people who think that the Democratic Party outright rigs elections.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Sep 13th 2018 at 12:08:19 PM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254745: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:09:24 PM

As a Californian, I have a rather dim view of celebrities becoming governors.

And that article hardly seems unbiased and professional. Especially with titles like "Sleaze and the City" and "An exceptionally underhanded smear lands Andrew Cuomo in hot water". Clearly no agenda there.

Edited by M84 on Sep 14th 2018 at 12:10:33 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#254746: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:14:22 PM

[up] ...Are you saying the ECONOMIST is trying to undermine a more moderate candidate in favor of a more left wing candidate? Because that's what the Economist is known for. Supporting left-wing economic policy.

[down] [awesome]

Edited by AzurePaladin on Sep 13th 2018 at 12:18:00 PM

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#254747: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:14:38 PM

[up][up]It's not as if there's no reason to want him gone: for example:

Although socially liberal, the governor pursued moderate economic policies and seemed to prefer Republican control of the state Senate in an overwhelmingly blue state, an arrangement he helped ensure by allowing Republicans to redraw election districts in their favor.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Sep 13th 2018 at 9:16:50 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254748: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:18:47 PM

[up][up]Yeah, I was surprised that something like that was in the Economist. Nonetheless, I was immediately put off by the headline. It seemed just a tad too clickbaity for my taste.

Edited by M84 on Sep 14th 2018 at 12:19:54 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
AzurePaladin She/Her Pronouns from Forest of Magic Since: Apr, 2018 Relationship Status: Mu
She/Her Pronouns
#254749: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:19:50 PM

[up] That's fair. They seem to have taken it better than the NYT. NYT opinion board was really upset.

Arguably more so than the rise of the Far-right.

Edited by AzurePaladin on Sep 13th 2018 at 12:22:18 PM

The awful things he says and does are burned into our cultural consciousness like a CRT display left on the same picture too long. -Fighteer
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254750: Sep 13th 2018 at 9:21:12 PM

[up][up][up]Never said there wasn't a reason to primary him. I'm just of the mind that someone who resorts to something like "He's no different from Republicans!" isn't the person for the job. Especially if she has no actual experience in government.

And like I said before, as a Californian I really don't like the idea of a celebrity with no experience becoming a governor.

Edited by M84 on Sep 14th 2018 at 12:21:39 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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