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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
Seriously, some grunts liking you does not make a coup. Without leadership and organization any potential coup faction (god this is dumb) would be shut down by the actually organized and led loyalists.
This kind of alarmism simply isn't factual or productive, I see no rational reason to believe that a coup is particularly plausible and I for one can absolutely comprehend Trump's ilk.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangSo the leader of the free world is now a full-blown conpiracy theorist, despite the fact he himself was behind many of those deaths (worse than Katrina). I guess the next in natural progression for republicans really is Alex Jones.
Life is unfair...Yeah exactly my thoughts, it's just not going to happen and stoking such fears just doesn't have any productive use.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang... anybody think Florence or her* successors might have a Katrina-like effect on Trump?
- Are hurricanes referred to as her/him or it?
Edited by TroperOnAStickV2 on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:50:43 AM
Hopefully I'll feel confident to change my avatar off this scumbag soon. Apologies to any scumbags I insulted.Where have you been? Trump's been a full-blown conspiracy theorist since long before he took office. This is the guy who championed the Birtherist movement and kept beating that horse long after everyone else recognized how stupid it was.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I think we call hurricanes an "it".
I don't think Florence is anywhere near destructive enough to become Katrina 2.0. If Isaac survives the trip through the eastern Caribbean and causes a million fatalities in Texas then we can talk.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman"This is the guy who championed the Birtherist movement and kept beating that horse long after everyone else recognized how stupid it was. "
And he manage to get out of that without any backlash whatsoever, I really dislike that shit.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"No it's not, Trump lacks that power and the Supreme Court relies on its prestige to have power.
Thus if Trump tried that Congress would just say Hell no and then the Supreme Court would be discredited in the public eye.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangThus if Trump tried that Congress would just say Hell no and then the Supreme Court would be discredited in the public eye.
And having the Supreme Court discredited would be another blow to our already wobbling democracy. Personally I don't want to see it die during my lifetime if we can avoid it.
That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - SilaswThen they would be destroying the power of their institution and would be giving the Democratic Congress the power to pack their courts. They probably wouldn't be stupid enough to try but if they did then it would immediately explode in their face.
I completely disagree, more often then not the Supreme Court has been a tool of reactionaries and others who desire to obstruct progress.
Its actual history shows the falseness of the idea that it's somehow crucial to our democracy, it's not going to reflect the beliefs of most voters and hasn't for decades
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Kavanaugh is definitely a Reaganist Republican, with his most Trumpish feature being that he doesn't think a sitting President can be indicted (which is actually something he wanted to do when he was a part of the Star investigations into Clinton, but was forced to go along with them in indicting Clinton).
Even with Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, though, this Court is no where near as Conservative as the Lochner Court (1887-1937) was; they were so against the Government getting involved with Business and Welfare, that their Court was why Franklin Roosevelt wanted to pack the Courts. This threat made them concede on their Uber Conservatism, and allowed for most of Roosevelt's Welfare Policies after '37.
Edited by DingoWalley1 on Sep 13th 2018 at 1:56:45 PM
Can anyone explain exactly why this is for the Marines? Also, what about the Coast Guard? Or do even the people who survey the military not know they exist?
"Somehow the hated have to walk a tightrope, while those who hate do not."November, yes. 2020 is too far out to say anything definitive. A lot can happen in two years.
Indeed, a big win in November might translate to increased voter apathy in 2020 due to voters' annoying desire for big "Close curtains, roll credits, the evil has been slain!" victories. If we actually manage to take the Senate, some people might decide the battle's won and they can go back to not caring. It's very important to make sure that doesn't happen.
Or he might get impeached.
Point is, 2020 is far enough away that very little that happens today will actually have much bearing on it. Voters have a short memory. The Midterms are today's concern.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 13th 2018 at 12:47:51 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.

Relating to his popularity among the military, Obama was notably unpopular so I think almost any president would see similar numbers in his first year. Just from informal polling those attitudes have very much been souring as time goes on, he’s not nearly as popular now and even less popular among leadership.
Edited by archonspeaks on Sep 13th 2018 at 7:37:52 AM
They should have sent a poet.