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#254627: Sep 12th 2018 at 10:07:34 PM

The Captain Planet of conspiracy theories. The basic idea was that Donald Trump was busy heroically dismantling a pedophilic sex trafficking ring run by key Democratic figures such as Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Any pretense of incompetence was the result of him constantly speaking in coded messages to his legion of operatives hard at work on the matter.

Pizzagate, Jewish lizard people, Flat Earth, you name it and it's a part of Qanon. Jim Jeffries did a segment on it.

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TheRoguePenguin Since: Jul, 2009
#254628: Sep 12th 2018 at 10:12:47 PM

[up][up][up][up]Lindsey Graham has always wanted war with North Korea, and basically anyone else worth attacking. That isn't news. The takeaway from that is more the kind of juvenile manipulation that will work on Trump, though mercifully it didn't this time.

Edited by TheRoguePenguin on Sep 12th 2018 at 10:13:00 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#254629: Sep 12th 2018 at 10:13:02 PM

Notably, even Trumpists often believe Qanon makes them look bad.

There's also a heavy irony that there was an underage sex trafficking ring which Bill Clinton was linked to that involved numerous other high profile celebrities.

Roman Polanski, Kevin Spacey, Woody Allen.

Oh yes, and Donald Trump.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 12th 2018 at 10:16:58 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#254630: Sep 12th 2018 at 10:21:03 PM

NVM, not what I thought it was.

Edited by sgamer82 on Sep 12th 2018 at 11:21:10 AM

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#254631: Sep 12th 2018 at 10:45:20 PM

's basically the grand unified conspiracy theory for right-wingers. There's a RationalWiki article that covers the basics

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#254632: Sep 12th 2018 at 11:44:57 PM

Tomorrow is primary for NY State and local races. One thing I'd beg all NYS residents to do is to go out and vote against any IDC members. (Long story short for those who don't know, the IDC are a group of Democrats in the State Senate who essentially went rogue and sides with Republicans, allowing themselves to play kingmaker over who controlled the state senate an getting themselves plum positions in return.)

The group has pledged to dissolve and return to the fold with Democrats, but they've also said that before and then threw away those words as soon as it suited them. The fact that members of the IDC got hefty sums of money from a PAC supposedly set up to fund the Independence party (a 3rd party) but which was chaired by IDC leader Jeff Klein, only ever disbursed funds to IDC members and is still donating to them now is a sign about the corruption of the IDC members. That this pac is still funding IDC members as they try to fend of being primaried is a major sign that the IDC will go back to their old tricks if they should escape being voted out in this election.

The members of the IDC are:

  • Tony Avella in Senate District 11. Being challenged by John Liu
  • José Peralta in Senate District 13. His challenger is Jessica Ramos
  • Jesse Hamilton in Senate District 20. Here the challenger is Zellnor Myrie
  • Diane Savino Senate District 23. Being challenged by Jasmine Robinson
  • Marisol Alcantara in Senate District 31. Challenger is Robert Jackson
  • Jeff Klein leader of the IDC and general liar and demagogue in Senate District 34. (He recently claimed to have been endorsed by Governor Cuomo and Obama, neither of which is true.) Alessandra Biaggi wants to knock him off.
  • David Carlucci in Senate District 31. Julie Goldberg is challenging him.
  • David Valesky in Senate District 53. Rachel Mayis his opponent in the primary.

The purely optional cherry on top is Simcha Felder in Senate District 17. Felder is not a member of the IDC, but he has continued to caucus with Republicans independent of the IDC, often while heaping scorn on basic ideas and ideals of Democrats. Digging Felder out of his district is likely to be just about impossible, but he is being challenged by Blake Morris.

This is a major chance to both change the direction of the state party and to kick out some of Albany's legendary corruption. Lets not miss out.

If you want to see if any of these names match your Senator, here's a tool on the state website to see who your Senator is. Lets see what happens in the primary.

Edited by TheWanderer on Sep 12th 2018 at 2:44:58 PM

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#254633: Sep 13th 2018 at 12:21:08 AM

The police actually looked into the pizzeria's basement for evidence before declaring that they had no proof because, well...said pizzeria had no basement. That did not stop Qanon or the people who bought into the conspiracy as shown when someone shot up a pizza joint over this. The wrong pizza joint.

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#254634: Sep 13th 2018 at 5:25:38 AM

All Trump really needs is the military on his side. I hope he won't get it.

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#254636: Sep 13th 2018 at 5:39:05 AM

Don't know. But you don't think the Republicans will dash to keep their control of Congress? On the plus side if he tries that and fails the 25th option becomes pretty much a certainty.

Edited by tricksterson on Sep 13th 2018 at 8:39:04 AM

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#254637: Sep 13th 2018 at 5:46:10 AM

Given how Jim Mattis is more trying to contain Trump than enable him, I'd consider that having the whole military on Trump's side is kinda unlikely.

You may have a lot of grunts supporting Trump but the higher ups not so much.

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#254638: Sep 13th 2018 at 5:55:47 AM

The military helping Trump with a coup or something similar is infinitely unlikely. It’s not even a possibility worth considering.

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#254639: Sep 13th 2018 at 5:57:38 AM

Everything I've heard indicates that the military despises Trump and has been passively resisting him. For example, when he indicated after his Putin summit that we might be withdrawing our forces from Syria, the general in charge of that operational area said he had no such orders and wasn't about to change anything he was doing without them.

Edited by Fighteer on Sep 13th 2018 at 9:00:53 AM

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#254640: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:12:46 AM

He's much better liked by the military than the public at-large.

Granted, this poll is from almost a year ago, but it's interesting, and frankly I don't think there's a lot that's really changed between now and then (I mean, a lot has, but nothing that would change the mind of those who bought into the Trumpisms to have ever believed it). Officers dislike him, unsurprisingly, but he's been popular among enlisted troops.

Also the marines.

Edited by Larkmarn on Sep 13th 2018 at 9:14:22 AM

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#254641: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:13:44 AM

Well, military leadership hates him, which is the important part.

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speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#254642: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:14:33 AM

Re: Reddit shutting down Q boards: About time. Unfortunately the damage has already been done: Russian trolls/bots still heavily push the narrative, and one of Q's supporters was invited to the fucking White House.

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#254643: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:14:34 AM

Shortly after he was elected I think the military were asked about this and they replied that they would not be allowed to follow Trump in some coup or to go after his detractors. It would be deemed unlawful for them to follow such orders. As I understand it the only way the proper military would go after it's citizens would be if nukes were involved. This would not discount the idea of the FBI HRT, ATF SWAT teams, police sympathetic to Trump or some pro Trump militia, however outside of some policy being brought in (think the Australian "stolen generation" and how laws were made for police to remove aboriginal children from bad care, something that would equate to going out in a blaze of glory were Trump to apply this to his detractors) then such ideas from what I have read are fanciful at best.

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#254644: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:19:28 AM

[up]x8 Again, are you seriously suggesting we should let the GOP keep control of Congress out of fear of a coup? Because that still seems to be the implication here.

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#254645: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:30:45 AM

So I guess Trump’s off denying that a bunch of people died in Puerto Rico due to Maria and it’s a Dem conspiracy to make him look bad.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/09/13/trump-inflated-hurricane-maria-death-toll-822236

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#254646: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:41:41 AM

A majority of American military leadership despises Trump, and Trump's popularity fades the further you go away from ground troops. Marines love him, but marines are ridiculous people in general and this is entirely in character for them. Army likes him less, Navy even lesser, and the Air Force least of all. And even within the branches, I doubt the vast majority of guys in them are devoted enough to upend the country for him.

And if some try, so what? The rest of the military will kill them.

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#254647: Sep 13th 2018 at 6:48:41 AM

Trump makes up his own reality, claiming 3000 Puerto Ricans did not die and blames Democrats for trying to make him look bad. "Nah, those 3000 deaths never happened" says Trump. And of course he blames Democrats for it and brushes off the deaths that can be "written on a list like dying of old age."

This is a really fucking dangerous mindset he's got going on.

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#254648: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:00:04 AM

[up]x4 No, I don't think a coup is inevitable, although I think it's more likely than people here think and in any case resistance is necessary. I'm just voicing my concerns.

Trump delenda est
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#254649: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:03:21 AM

it’s a Dem conspiracy to make him look bad.
He didn't need our help!

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#254650: Sep 13th 2018 at 7:10:14 AM

Meanwhile, Florence's storm winds are moving ashore the Outer Banks.

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