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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#254126: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:44:38 PM

Yeah. No sympathy, no respect. You don't get brownie points for keeping the monster you elected looking respectable, and you sure as hell don't get to write an op-ed stroking yourself off over how much of an unsung hero you are for it.

It's been fun.
wisewillow She/her Since: May, 2011
She/her
#254127: Sep 5th 2018 at 6:52:43 PM

The entire point of the 25th amendment is to deal with this sort of situation. Using it wouldn’t be a constitutional crisis. It would be in the public view, and it would go through established process and democratic channels.

Straight up REFUSING to use it and instead having the president’s staff managing the president like a toddler and hiding documents is far, far worse. Because all of this is happening in secret, outside the democratic process, and without accountability.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#254128: Sep 5th 2018 at 7:55:31 PM

It's like people have already said - they want the veneer of being the secret heroes of the White House without losing the power that comes from having their candidate's ass in the chair.

"But we have to hide documents from him!" You elected him.

"But he gets mad at us and we have to calm him down!" You elected him.

"But he tweets all the time!" You elected him.

It's been fun.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#254129: Sep 5th 2018 at 8:20:46 PM

If he's a threat to the country just by being president, he's unfit and there's a damn amendment to replace him.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254130: Sep 5th 2018 at 8:25:37 PM

Maybe if we take the House, we can press them to use it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#254131: Sep 5th 2018 at 8:45:29 PM

Also, why not doing everything possible to remove him altogether? Yeah, no pity from me. Only for the people who are regularly working for the White House independent from who is in power. I feel sorry for them, because they might not have elected Trump at all but now have to deal with him.

Edited by Swanpride on Sep 5th 2018 at 8:48:41 AM

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#254132: Sep 5th 2018 at 9:03:56 PM

It's a strategy which I think is very dangerous for the Republicans to invoke because consistently, their base is NOT reassured by any of this. Trump's endorsement is gold with the people they have incited to riot against Washington since Reagan.

Edit:

And I just watch Roy Moore vs. Mitch McConnell like Satan vs. Asmodeus. It's impossible to say who is a more genuinely evil piece of shit.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Sep 5th 2018 at 9:08:21 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#254133: Sep 5th 2018 at 9:31:02 PM

And I just watched Marco Rubio vs Alex Jones. Never thought I'd sympathize with Rubio over anything, but jeez, Jones has slime for blood running through his veins.

Context: There was a Big Tech hearing in the Senate that Jones sat in on, then proceeded to heckle Rubio as he talked to reporters. Among Jones' grand statements are such gems as:

“Democrats are raping Republicans!"

“Look at this little frat boy, so cool. Go back to your bath house. Compromise in the bath houses. There goes Rubio, little punk.”

“Marco Rubio the snake. Hur hur hur. Little frat boy over here.”

Rubio may be a snake, but Jones is so low and flat that the foot of man is incapable of crushing him.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#254134: Sep 5th 2018 at 9:33:21 PM

Jones is an interesting story as according to his wife, he used to be playing a character but has gradually gone through Becoming the Mask.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#254135: Sep 5th 2018 at 9:46:40 PM

In a weird way, Jones sounds like a pathetically insecure Manchild Jerk Jock bully.

Do not obey in advance.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#254136: Sep 5th 2018 at 10:32:43 PM

Alex Jones also called him gay over Twitter, which is really funny and hypocritical, considering a lucky camera angle revealed that Jones' phone had transgender porn on it.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 5th 2018 at 10:32:30 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254137: Sep 5th 2018 at 10:36:03 PM

One can find some amusement over Jones' antics. At least until one remembers that Jones not only makes a lot of money through these antics, he has a sizable audience who think he's more trustworthy than actual journalists. Including the President.

I'm no longer able to find Jones funny — he's genuinely dangerous.

Edited by M84 on Sep 6th 2018 at 1:36:21 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
3of4 Just a harmless giant from a foreign land. from Five Seconds in the Future. Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Just a harmless giant from a foreign land.
#254138: Sep 5th 2018 at 11:36:42 PM

Trump tweeted at the NYT that they must turn over the person who wrote the op-ed, citing 'National Security's.

Now I worry if he'll try and send in the Secret Service (since he doesn't trust the FBI) to raid them.

"You can reply to this Message!"
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#254139: Sep 5th 2018 at 11:59:07 PM

Man, if it turns out to be Pence, Trump might actually break.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254140: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:01:43 AM

If it's someone Trump actually likes in the WH (unlikely I know), he might go full Et Tu, Brute?.

Disgusted, but not surprised
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#254141: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:14:12 AM

Who does he like that much in his administration??

Someone who’s been there from the beginning?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254142: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:30:55 AM

Maybe it's whoever gets him Mc Donald's meals.

It says a lot about the state of things that I'm not entirely sure this isn't the case.

Edited by M84 on Sep 7th 2018 at 3:30:48 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#254143: Sep 6th 2018 at 12:41:03 AM

I know the NYT won't comply, partially because they have no reason to ever listen to anything Trump says and mostly because it would be terrible form for other anonymous sources, but if it was Pence I would be sorely tempted.

It's been fun.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#254144: Sep 6th 2018 at 5:26:56 AM

If Trump keeps harassing the NYT, they might as well publish something on the lines, No Trump, your ego is not a matter of national security.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#254145: Sep 6th 2018 at 5:38:04 AM

"If there's something more important than my ego in this country I want it caught and shot right now."

"Yup. That tasted purple."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#254146: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:11:01 AM

He'd probably claim that if he looks weak and stupid other countries won't respect him, which is bad for the USA.

Pfft...as if they actually respected him before.

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254147: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:12:17 AM

[up]He already looks weak and stupid. What else is new?

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#254148: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:29:15 AM

Jones is an interesting story as according to his wife, he used to be playing a character but has gradually gone through Becoming the Mask.

Which honestly sounds to me like the real character he was playing was the reasonable and ordinary person he was when he was with her.

The Alex Jones we know today isn't the kind of mask you put on as a completely artificial personality and then slowly slide into in your personal life. It's the kind of mask you put on so that you can be yourself but with that thin veneer of pretense that lets you escape judgment by your friends and family for the toxic individual that you are. Then, as you receive more and more positive reinforcement for doing so, you gradually stop pretending you were ever anything else.

Kind of like what's happening to the Republican party as a whole since Trump's election.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Sep 6th 2018 at 7:29:55 AM

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RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#254149: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:31:47 AM

What's worse, an Alex Jones who believes what he's spouting or a sane person who spouts it anyway for a quick buck?

It's been fun.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#254150: Sep 6th 2018 at 6:32:28 AM

He'd probably claim that if he looks weak and stupid other countries won't respect him, which is bad for the USA.

That ship sailed a loooong time ago.

Given how Japan and North Korea struck negotiation deals and how everyone seems to be playing Trump like a fiddle in meetings, I hardly think that there are any world leaders that even respect Trump, in public and private.

Inter arma enim silent leges

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