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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
I mean, atonement is a thing and I appreciate them trying to clean up their mess, but it's certainly a "too little, too late."
It's like apologizing for shooting me in the leg by getting a band-aid.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.I love how he pulls off a No True Scotsman when he says Trump's ideas don't represent the Republican Party. Of course they do. His policies are the culmination of those ideas. His supposed "anti-trade tactics" are really attempts to kneecap American workers with bad deals that exclusively benefit corporations and no one else.
Basically, he wants a TPP on steroids.
Edited by Mario1995 on Sep 5th 2018 at 4:35:06 AM
"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
I have similar mixed feelings about it.
On one hand, his staffers giving the signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters treatment to everything Trump wants to do, until he forgets about it in favor of his next hair-brained idea highly amusing, and am grateful that someone is actively trying to keep him from killing us all.
On the other hand, they brought this upon themselves.
Edited by megaeliz on Sep 5th 2018 at 4:38:30 AM
By the way, how Trump and the GOP got elected and their policies are strikingly similar to Apartheid South Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid
. "As the voting system was disproportionately weighted in favour of rural constituencies and the Transvaal in particular, the 1948 election catapulted the Herenigde Nasionale Party from a small minority party to a commanding position with an eight-vote parliamentary lead."
It's common for Fascist and Reactionary parties to be supported by rural people and the petite bourgeoisie just like the Republicans.
The Republicans are certainly not unprecedented as an ideology, they're simply our homegrown version of fascism with its own American twists.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 5th 2018 at 4:38:25 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangNo it's not.
Fascism is about principles not just methods. Without a cult of machismo, appeals to tradition, or other common traits
an ideology cannot accurately said to be fascist.
Interesting, this makes sense.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangFascism I typically define along the following lines: It's a totalitarian political style which seeks to create conformity and social unity, and does so by spreading a common hatred of an invoked enemy.
Leviticus 19:34
I'm going to be honest, no offense meant but this is a extremely vague definition.
It covers literally any totalitarian ideologies like Italian Fascism, Marxist Leninism, or Baathism to name a few.
That just isn't useful from an academic or practical perspective.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 5th 2018 at 5:29:18 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang![]()
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The core of fascism, or at least its defining characteristic is probably what you could describe as “mythic ultranationalism”. It’s an almost cultish obsession with the state, from within the state. Think the insane mythology the Nazis built around Germany and things like that.
Simply being ultranationalist and persecuting minorities isn’t really enough. Lots of dictatorships have those. They’re critical parts of fascism, but they don’t combine together into fascism without that state mythos.
Edited by archonspeaks on Sep 5th 2018 at 2:33:19 AM
They should have sent a poet.
Well, the thing is it could be all of that and still not really be fascist. It’s a very tricky thing to pin down.
That mythological treatment of the state is what really ties all these disparate elements together into fascism. You’ll notice that fascist states all have the same threads as far as the supremacy of their establishment, their legacy, and their national grandeur. They all have the same shades of millenarianism, and the backstory to match.
There are a lot of different definitions of fascism, but that’s the characteristic that really makes or breaks it.
They should have sent a poet.![]()
Would make sense. I do like the term, but I've only seen "lodestar" used in one other modern(ish) context. So it becomes a watchword for people that used it frequently.
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You think either ideology really values "freedom"? Sure it values the freedom of the aristocrats of the in-group but the exact same thing could be said of fascist ideologies and they certainly do not value freedom as a discrete concept.
Frankly I find this to be an extremely unconvincing position.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangIn a way that’s correct, though I’ll modify it a little. In a lot of basic totalitarian states, the state serves the needs of those elites. In a fascist state, they serve the needs of the state. It’s not really so much about freedom, as both fascist states and regular dictatorships co-opt the language of freedom.
They should have sent a poet.
Frankly I think that sounds like a ridiculously idealized version of fascism, fascist states absolutely catered to the dominant elites just like any other non-democratic system (or for that matter many if not most democratic systems).
Sure they could care about the interests of the state but so could any totalitarian ideology, it's not a particularly fascist quality.
Though I realize that we've drifted towards General Politics.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Sep 5th 2018 at 6:51:42 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

Fuck you, guys. We appreciate that you're helping to stop Trump from steering the country off of a bridge, but your party elected him. Don't pretend you aren't complicit.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"