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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#253576: Aug 29th 2018 at 11:43:27 PM

[up][up] Not surprised that this backfired - these are the same people who think free healthcare and education for children are somehow a bad thing.

What's next, trying to discredit somebody by saying they donate blood in their free time?

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Aug 29th 2018 at 8:43:38 PM

We learn from history that we do not learn from history
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#253577: Aug 30th 2018 at 12:13:02 AM

I saw an attack cartoon on Maxine Waters that has her telling a suit-wearing Trump staffer "you're not welcome anywhere anymore!", then bending down to offer a scruffy-looking Mexican man a hand and saying "welcome to the United States, make yourself at home" or something.

Naturally, all the comments (on Tumblr, where I saw it) were like... wait, this is an attack cartoon? Written by a Republican? This is intended to be criticism, not praise?

It's been fun.
AceofSpades Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#253578: Aug 30th 2018 at 12:29:15 AM

To them, it is. Which really just illustrates how far apart we've become in our basic assumptions of what's good for America.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#253579: Aug 30th 2018 at 1:58:35 AM

Edited by rmctagg09 on Aug 30th 2018 at 4:58:50 AM

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#253580: Aug 30th 2018 at 5:08:34 AM

I mean a common accusation is that Democrats care more about illegals than they do about U.S. citizens. Which is, obviously, not true but it makes for a sound byte.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#253581: Aug 30th 2018 at 5:45:10 AM

It makes perfect sense as an attack ad if you're a xenophobic bigot. Which a lot of Trump supporters are.

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#253582: Aug 30th 2018 at 5:58:14 AM

So it's only an attack to people who were against her anyway?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253583: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:05:36 AM

[up]Keep in mind that just because someone's against her does't mean they'll vote against her, I imagine the ad is meant to inspire such people to vote.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#253584: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:22:14 AM

I don't agree with those fools at all, but I think their point with that absolutely brain-dead cartoon is that "Democrats care more about "illegals" than they do about citizens!" The underlying question I suppose they have is: "Does a country or government have more obligation to their natural-born citizens than to the rest of the world?"

Edited by Friendperson on Aug 30th 2018 at 6:22:05 AM

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253585: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:27:50 AM

[up]Nah the point they were making was "Democrats care about brown people instead of white people", Republicans have always used their opposition to illegal immigration merely as a pretext for their actual racist beliefs.

See the Trump administrations efforts to curtail legal immigration and go after Hispanic natural born citizens.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 30th 2018 at 9:29:53 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#253586: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:28:09 AM

[up][up]Which ignores all the children of immigrant parents that are natural-born citizens.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 30th 2018 at 9:30:25 AM

i'm tired, my friend
speedyboris Since: Feb, 2010
#253587: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:41:19 AM

So are there any NON-Trumpians running for Congress in 2018? It feels like every candidate that's won the primaries is embracing Trump's policies and, in some cases, his rhetoric. Are there any moderates left?

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253588: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:43:23 AM

[up]Mc Sally won in Arizona, she's pretty much Republican Establishment lite and Mc Cain 2.0.

But that just means her awfulness is more subtle, lets not confuse not being batshit insane with moderation. Republicans winning in this climate are beholden to the party and thus at-best only slightly terrible.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#253589: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:49:45 AM

Which ignores all the children of immigrant parents that are natural-born citizens.
No, see, to a Republican, there is no such thing as a natural-born brown citizen, let alone a natural-born child of illegal immigrant parents. Those are "anchor" babies, produced solely to let ugly brown people soil this fine, lily-white country.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#253590: Aug 30th 2018 at 6:51:26 AM

Trump has actually flat out said he hates that law and would repeal it if he could.

Mind you, he's also taken land from Native Americans in the 21st century to protect white people's views.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253591: Aug 30th 2018 at 7:04:23 AM

Yeah the Trump administration has more or less wiped away the facade that their opposition to undocumented immigration has anything to do with laws and is anything other than perfidious bigotry.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#253592: Aug 30th 2018 at 7:10:18 AM

In my Nazi Propaganda and Film History Class at Marshall University, I watched shorts for the Nazis and some of them were downright bizarre.

One being:

[A bunch of smiling, drinking Germans, kissing girls and looking like they're having fun]

Narrator: Do you wish to be like this?

[Switch to smiling military uniformed people working laborously to spread pamplets]

Narrator: OR THIS!

Me: The former?

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Aug 30th 2018 at 7:09:54 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#253593: Aug 30th 2018 at 7:15:36 AM

Well, Prussia did get a highly militaristic culture going.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253594: Aug 30th 2018 at 7:31:14 AM

Either sounds fine to me TBH.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#253595: Aug 30th 2018 at 8:09:50 AM

A What the Fuck Just Happened Today preview:

George Papadopoulos decided to accept a plea deal from Robert Mueller and plead guilty to lying to the FBI. He admitted to lying to the FBI about his contacts during the campaign with a professor who had "substantial connections to Russian government officials." Padadopoulos was strongly considering backing away from the deal earlier this month, but decided to accept the deal and cooperate with Mueller's probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/weeks-uncertainty-papadopoulos-decides-accept-plea-deal-mueller/story?id=57483474

ironballs16 Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#253596: Aug 30th 2018 at 8:16:20 AM

Welp, Trump has outdone himself in following Oceania's playbook, tweeting the following.

What’s going on at @CNN is happening, to different degrees, at other networks - with @NBC News being the worst. The good news is that Andy Lack(y) is about to be fired(?) for incompetence, and much worse. When Lester Holt got caught fudging my tape on Russia, they were hurt badly!

That's right, he's claiming that the interview with Holt was somehow doctored.

"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#253597: Aug 30th 2018 at 8:18:36 AM

Perhaps the most interesting thing about these investigations is not whether they can destroy Donald Trump, who I suspect will serve out the remainder of his term without being impeached.

Perhaps the most interesting thing will be that it will help clarify, along with Trump's own You Have Failed Me tendencies, that the Republican cronies will realize that being his servant is not a path to rewards but jail or having their careers destroyed.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
Friendperson Since: May, 2018
#253598: Aug 30th 2018 at 8:36:56 AM

What I don't understand is how this administration tops itself in terms of disaster every week and how it hasn't completely fallen apart by now.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#253599: Aug 30th 2018 at 8:38:52 AM

[up]Because Republicans control the government and they're pretty much bound to Trump and his base.

i'm tired, my friend
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#253600: Aug 30th 2018 at 8:43:33 AM

And his base has zero problem with any of this.

None of this is a scandal to them and none of it would ever change their mind.

Oh really when?

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