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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#253401: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:03:19 PM

Trump privately revived the idea of firing Sessions this month, according to people familiar with the discussions

At least twice this month, Trump vented to White House advisers and his lawyers about the “endless investigation” of his campaign and said he needs to fire Sessions for saddling his presidency with the controversy, according to two of the people.

One such discussion occurred in early August, during the trial of Paul Manafort, his former campaign chairman. On Aug. 1, the second day of the trial, Trump tweeted that Sessions should end the special counsel investigation.

“This is a terrible situation and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further,” Trump wrote. “Bob Mueller is totally conflicted, and his 17 Angry Democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to USA!”

In subsequent talks with his lawyers and advisers, Trump said what he really wanted to do was fire Sessions, the people said.

His attorneys, Rudolph W. Giuliani and Jay Sekulow, advised him that Mueller could interpret such an action as an effort to obstruct justice and thwart the investigation — already a major focus of the inquiry, the people said.

Giuliani confirmed that he and Trump have discussed Sessions’s possible removal, but declined to offer details of their talks.

“If there is any action taken, the president agrees with us that it shouldn’t be taken until after the investigation is concluded,” Giuliani said. Sekulow referred questions to Giuliani.

White House aides have tried to convince Trump that firing Sessions could trigger more problems than it would solve. A senior White House official said the goal was to delay a firing, because Trump’s advisers do not think that stopping it is possible.

Others are urging the president to jettison current Justice Department leaders.

“He needs to fire Sessions, he needs to fire Rosenstein,” said Doug Deason, a major Republican donor. “They haven’t represented him or us well.”

'These are violent people': Trump reportedly told Christian leaders there will be 'violence' if the GOP loses in midterms

President Donald Trump on Monday night reportedly warned evangelical Christian leaders there will be "violence" if Republicans lose their majority in Congress as a result of November's midterm elections.

Trump suggested Democrats would "quickly" and "violently" overturn gains he's made for conservative Christians, according to excerpts of the closed-door meeting obtained by NBC News.

"You're one election away from losing everything that you've got," Trump allegedly said. "The level of hatred, the level of anger is unbelievable."

Trump apparently went on to say that the midterm elections are not only a referendum on him.

If Republicans lose big to Democrats, Trump reportedly warned, "they will overturn everything that we've done and they'll do it quickly and violently, and violently. There's violence. When you look at Antifa and you look at some of these groups — these are violent people."

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Business Insider.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 28th 2018 at 12:03:46 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#253402: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:08:07 PM

The violence typically comes from his supporters so it sounds like he's prepared to rally his supporters to violence if they lose under the guise of 'self defence'

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253403: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:16:31 PM

Oh please please please Trump fire Sessions before the midterms, I'm sure that clusterfuck won't have any negative effects on you! evil grin

(also the violence bit is just Trump being his normal incompetent fascist self)

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 28th 2018 at 7:16:13 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#253404: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:24:23 PM

Too predictable even for Trump,it's like a game of chess,you and he know he's going get checked because he's incompetent,but he's not going to get checked that easily

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253405: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:26:34 PM

Florida polls just closed and Ron DeSantis (the Trumpist candidate and a repulsive human being) is so far leading the GOP gubernatorial primary by a landslide. Yikes.

If this thing goes down to DeSantis vs. Graham, it's going to be very nasty. Question is whether or not Graham can turn out the base to vote, and I'm not too optimistic about that given Florida's high senior population.

[up][up][up]That's been one of my biggest concerns about this presidency: that Trump will actually make a Second Civil War a self-fulfilling prophecy. We're one step closer to being Venezuela.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 28th 2018 at 7:29:17 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#253406: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:37:18 PM

[up]x7 That's another thing, open and concealed carry should really not be something civilians can do. Unless you can demonstrate some absolute need for a weapon, and prove without a doubt that you're qualified to carry one you have no business doing so.

[up] Let's not start with the alarmism again in this thread. Things are plenty bad already without having to resort to that.

They should have sent a poet.
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253407: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:39:08 PM

Florida polls just closed and Ron De Santis (the Trumpist candidate and a repulsive human being) is so far leading the GOP gubernatorial primary by a landslide. Yikes.

Betting on the Republican base to behave decently is a fool's wager, this is simply more evidence of that.

Let's not start with the alarmism again in this thread. Things are plenty bad already without having to resort to that.

Seriously, there are enough bad things without wasting time talking about civil wars.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 28th 2018 at 7:41:28 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253408: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:40:51 PM

On the plus side, It appears Florida Democrats are sick of Alan Grayson.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253409: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:42:21 PM

As someone who doesn't know anything about those people why is that good?

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#253410: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:46:04 PM

Trump actually sounded like he was threatening the church.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253411: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:46:30 PM

I kinda like Grayson, but he's been kind of a bother to Democrats for a while. He initially lost his seat because of an ad where he manipulated video of his opponent to paint him as a religious extremist like a Taliban priest. He ran successfully again for the 9th district, only to step down in a failed run for Senator (and we all know how that went). This article delves into his second (and possibly final) comeback.

As for the gubernatorial race, I was right: it will be DeSantis vs. Graham.

So basically Trump vs. Clinton redux. Oh dear.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 28th 2018 at 7:47:47 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
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A procrastination in of itself
#253412: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:49:02 PM

He’s facing “ethics questions and spousal abuse allegations” according to Five Thirty Eight, also he’s trying to unseat an incumbent Dem who represents the district well demographically (Soto is from Purto Rico (being the first Purto Rican congressmen from Florida) and the district is heavily Purto Rican).

Edited by Silasw on Aug 28th 2018 at 11:50:00 AM

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253413: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:52:08 PM

[up][up],[up] Ah, in that case I'm happy that Grayson lost. He does not sound like a reliable candidate or legislator.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253414: Aug 28th 2018 at 4:56:20 PM

So with DeSantis vs. Graham in the Florida gubernatorial race, it's basically Trump vs. Clinton redux, with a centre-left candidate battling against an ultraconservative, nationalist candidate. And we all know where that went.

Unless Graham can motivate the base with her support for gun control, police reform and taxation on the wealthy, I can see DeSantis' support rising pretty quickly, especially since he's not quite a Roy Moore or Corey Stewart.

For the Parkland movement, this will either be a historic victory, or an irreparable loss that could see the movement lose strength quickly.

EDIT: Wait a minute, it looks like Graham is losing strength. Looks like that tweet got deleted quickly.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 28th 2018 at 7:59:56 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
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Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to.
#253415: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:00:29 PM

[up] I thought the votes were still be counted. Gillum is not far behind her.

[nja]

Edited by Kakuzan on Aug 28th 2018 at 8:00:21 AM

Don't catch you slippin' now.
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253416: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:01:12 PM

[up]I just noticed. The tweet from Wasserman projecting the race just disappeared.

And to nobody's surprise, Rick Scott appears to have clinched the GOP nomination for Senate. RIP Bill Nelson.

UPDATE: Got a feeling the Dem primary for governor will head to a run-off between Gillium and Graham. So far it looks like Republicans have the turnout edge (not surprising due to the large number of seniors there, but yikes).

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 28th 2018 at 8:07:18 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253417: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:24:58 PM

Son of a bitch.

It looks like Gillum will actually win this. Gillum vs. DeSantis for governor.

Think about that.

UPDATE: Dave Wasserman calling Dem Gov primary in Florida for Andrew Gillum. No runoff.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 28th 2018 at 8:40:52 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#253418: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:48:14 PM

For those curious Gillum is a black man who has campaigned on abolishing Stand Yoru Ground and ICE, so if he wins it’s no establishment vs Trumpster fight, it’s full on social progress vs reactionaries.

If he can motivate up black turnout it might also help Nelson, as if large numbers of black voters are going to the polls for the governor’s race they should vote in the senate race as well.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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The Dishonorable
#253419: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:50:35 PM

Basically it's a more hardcore version of Abrams vs. Kemp in GA. If Gillum and Abrams win their respective gubernatorial races it could fundamentally alter the Southern political landscape for years to come.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
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#253420: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:51:05 PM

Gillum was another one I liked, though I ended up voting for King. I'm not disappointed either way, especially since he was experience as a mayor.

Don't catch you slippin' now.
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#253421: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:52:28 PM

It would radically empower black democrats, the way to win back the south would be clear, you go black and you go hard.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253422: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:55:45 PM

Damn, I really hope Gillum wins then.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253423: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:56:14 PM

The only big storm cloud hovering above Gillum is the fact that his city is under FBI investigation for corruption.

Even if he's not implicated in the probe, DeSantis could use the investigation to his advantage.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253424: Aug 28th 2018 at 5:57:44 PM

Yeah I could see that being a major hassle, still hopefully he's not involved and he can win anyway.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253425: Aug 28th 2018 at 6:10:00 PM

Decision Desk HQ calls the FL gov Dem primary for Gillum.

Only a matter of time 'til AP and other news orgs call it for him.

UPDATE: ABC 9 Orlando calls Dem Gov primary for Gillum.

UPDATE: NBC 2 Orlando calls Dem Gov primary for Gillum. Folks, it's over.

UPDATE: AP projects Andrew Gillum wins FL Gov Dem primary.

It's official. It will be Gillum vs. DeSantis in November.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 28th 2018 at 9:22:56 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher

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