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AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#253201: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:12:02 PM

If live American hand-egg matches didn't bring the worse in people enough, the virtual one apparently brought the worst of all.

I really want to know what goes through the heads of those people. SWAT'ing was already obnoxious and dangerous enough, but live shooting at a Madden gaming even? Really?

Inter arma enim silent leges
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#253202: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:16:18 PM

Business Insider's take on the shooter suspect:

Police have identified the suspect in the deadly shooting in Jacksonville — here's what we know about him

It's way too early to speculate on motive, but it seems like this is a case of some asshole taking his disqualification very poorly.

Edited by M84 on Aug 26th 2018 at 10:17:13 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#253203: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:18:25 PM

[up] I already pointed out in the previous page that he's from Maryland. Baltimore, to be specific. Don't we have a troper from Maryland here?

SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#253204: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:22:30 PM

Finally able to check the news about the mass shooting. To be honest, a madden video game tournament isn't exactly the kind of event that I expect a mass shooting to happen. A brawl maybe but a mass shooting? This is weird...

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#253205: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:25:28 PM

This is the USA. Shootings can happen just about anywhere.

Disgusted, but not surprised
CookingCat Since: Jul, 2018
#253206: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:26:29 PM

[up][up] Someone did plan to shoot up a Pokemon tournament a while back, but thankfully he was stopped.

Steven (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#253207: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:27:01 PM

Shootings as often as we breathe.

Remember, these idiots drive, fuck, and vote. Not always in that order.
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#253208: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:29:48 PM

[up]x5 I live in Maryland, but I'm from the District, originally.

Funny that video games are being blamed yet again, even though the game being played at the event was Madden.

You say that as if they know what Madden is.

To be honest, a madden video game tournament isn't exactly the kind of event that I expect a mass shooting to happen.

It's a gaming tournament. The capital 'G' Gamer crowd is not known for their anger management skills. This is exactly the kind of place a shooting would happen.

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 26th 2018 at 10:34:31 AM

i'm tired, my friend
SteamKnight Since: Jun, 2018
#253209: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:34:50 PM

[up][up][up] Wait, wut? Shooting can indeed happen just about anywhere in America...

I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#253210: Aug 26th 2018 at 7:49:49 PM

I lived in Baltimore for a short while, but that was years ago.

Edited by AngelusNox on Aug 26th 2018 at 11:51:55 AM

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#253211: Aug 26th 2018 at 8:23:42 PM

If live American hand-egg matches didn't bring the worse in people enough, the virtual one apparently brought the worst of all.

I really want to know what goes through the heads of those people. SWAT'ing was already obnoxious and dangerous enough, but live shooting at a Madden gaming even? Really?

Maybe we should adopt the other kind of footy here. Football hooligans with guns will force us to get gun control.

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#253212: Aug 26th 2018 at 8:40:54 PM

Please.

i'm tired, my friend
Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#253213: Aug 26th 2018 at 8:50:09 PM

It's a gaming tournament. The capital 'G' Gamer crowd is not known for their anger management skills. This is exactly the kind of place a shooting would happen.

The capital 'G' Gamer crowd tends not to like sports games, though? Traditionally more of a fratbro thing

Maybe we should adopt the other kind of footy here. Football hooligans with guns will force us to get gun control.

It would certainly make gun control legislation more popular with the general public, but as long as the 2nd is around there's a good chance they'll get shot down in court

PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
i'm tired, my friend
#253214: Aug 26th 2018 at 8:52:06 PM

[up]Fratbros aren't much better in that regard.

i'm tired, my friend
RainehDaze Nero Fangirl (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Nero Fangirl
#253215: Aug 26th 2018 at 9:19:03 PM

The Second Amendment, like anything, could be removed if enough people wanted it.

"But the 2nd" is a limitation to current gun control, but if enough people support gun control and it keeps getting used as a defence, its support will erode.

Mr_Madman Almighty Janitor from Eagleland, World of Badass Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: Brony
Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#253217: Aug 26th 2018 at 11:32:11 PM

Even without removing it, getting the "well-regulated militia" part enforced again would be a huge step in the right direction.

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."
Mr_Madman Almighty Janitor from Eagleland, World of Badass Since: Mar, 2017 Relationship Status: Brony
Almighty Janitor
#253218: Aug 26th 2018 at 11:34:00 PM

We must ask what is a well regulated militia? The individual, or a group?

Wait a second: How on earth did I even get here?
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#253219: Aug 27th 2018 at 12:09:28 AM

Too bad the late Antonin Scalia ruled the whole "but it' supposed to be about militias" thing moot. This was the same Scalia who based a defense of torture on how well it worked for Jack Bauer.

There's a reason I drew a comparison to him when talking about Mc Cain's death.

Edited by M84 on Aug 28th 2018 at 3:09:37 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253220: Aug 27th 2018 at 5:27:20 AM

You also forgot to note that these shootings not just enable gun control advocates, but their proliferation when it boils down to the need to defend for your life.

Except statistically having a gun in the house increases the odds of harm or death, so even if that's why people think they need it doesn't mean that it actually helps them. The people who really have any legitimate need for a gun are people in rural areas do to how long police can arrive and the commonality of aggressive animals.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#253221: Aug 27th 2018 at 5:56:22 AM

[up] It’s more about people’s perception of danger, unfortunately. The US is a pretty safe country, all things considered, but look at the polls asking people how likely they think they are to be a victim of a violent crime.

They should have sent a poet.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#253222: Aug 27th 2018 at 5:56:45 AM

Living in a rural area, 2/3rds of the people I know and never have an accident.

They also never use them for a crime. Just collecting, hunting, and target practice.

However, it's the people who accumulate them in hopes of living out their Turning Diaries fantasies, non-organized white supremecists, and the actual drug-dealing/taking criminals that you're to worry about.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
megaeliz Since: Mar, 2017
#253223: Aug 27th 2018 at 6:20:05 AM

The Republicans are terrified about the midterms.

Congressional Republicans are getting ready for hell. Axios has obtained a spreadsheet that's circulated through Republican circles on and off Capitol Hill — including at least one leadership office — that meticulously previews the investigations Democrats will likely launch if they flip the House.

Why this matters: Publicly, House Republicans are putting on a brave face about the midterms. But privately, they are scrambling to prepare for the worst. This document, which catalogs requests Democrats have already made, is part of that effort.

It has churned Republican stomachs. Here are some of the probes it predicts:

  • President Trump’s tax returns
  • Trump family businesses — and whether they comply with the Constitution's emoluments clause, including the Chinese trademark grant to the Trump Organization
  • Trump's dealings with Russia, including the president's preparation for his meeting with Vladimir Putin
  • The payment to Stephanie Clifford — a.k.a. * * Stormy Daniels
  • James Comey's firing
  • Trump's firing of U.S. attorneys
  • Trump's proposed transgender ban for the military
  • Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin's business dealings
  • White House staff's personal email use
  • Cabinet secretary travel, office expenses, and other misused perks
  • Discussion of classified information at Mar-a-Lago
  • Jared Kushner's ethics law compliance
  • Dismissal of members of the EPA board of scientific counselors
  • The travel ban
  • Family separation policy
  • Hurricane response in Puerto Rico
  • Election security and hacking attempts
  • White House security clearances

The spreadsheet — which I'm told originated in a senior House Republican office — catalogs more than 100 formal requests from House Democrats this Congress, spanning nearly every committee.

  • The spreadsheet includes requests for administration officials to be grilled by committee staff, requests for hearings to obtain sworn testimony, efforts to seize communications about controversial policies and personnel decisions, and subpoena threats.
  • These demands would turn the Trump White House into a 24/7 legal defense operation.

The bottom line: Thanks to their control of Congress, Republicans have blocked most of the Democrats’ investigative requests. But if the House flips, the GOP loses its power to stymie. Lawyers close to the White House tell me the Trump administration is nowhere near prepared for the investigatory onslaught that awaits them, and they consider it among the greatest threats to his presidency

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Edited by megaeliz on Aug 27th 2018 at 9:27:14 AM

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#253224: Aug 27th 2018 at 6:24:05 AM

[up]Rural suicides that nobody talks about are made so much easier thanks to easy access to guns.

Heck, the US proliferation of guns makes suicide by them a really big problem that rarely gets airtime. Even though that kills way more of your people than mass shooting. Last I heard, mass shooting only accounts for about 2% of gun deaths, whereas debatable-accident/suicide is up there in the 60s and 70s, depending on which state.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253225: Aug 27th 2018 at 6:54:06 AM

[up]Yeah, that's why I talk about the human cost of guns instead of strictly gun violence.

Suicide in my view is a much more important reason to cut down on the availability of guns then mass shootings.

[up][up]Wonderful, I hope their worst fears are realized.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 27th 2018 at 9:54:04 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang

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