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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253151: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:38:57 PM

That's good enough for me, if it's not a gamer we'll get news to the contrary.

Still whether they were part of the tournament or not is besides the point, our country's practice of allowing anyone regardless of their personal qualities to get a gun is insane and stupid. Hopefully after the midterms the Democratic Party will have the power to work on reducing this madness.

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#253152: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:42:32 PM

I think we all agree about the need for weapon laws. But there is still no reason to spread rumours about the situation at hand. I experienced a few times too often that initial information is often misleading.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253153: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:45:08 PM

I disagree, it's an official statement and is not a mere rumor.

Furthermore you may have a point if were using this to insult Gamers or Gaming, but we're not. Our position is the same regardless if he's a Gamer or not and thus even if he's not a Gamer it has zero relevance.

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#253154: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:47:05 PM

[up][up][up]One big problem with that: the Senate (which, barring something spectacular, will almost certainly stay in GOP's hands) and President Trump will never sign off on any gun control bill passed in the House, and even if the Senate miraculously passes gun control legislation, Dems won't have the votes to override an inevitable presidential veto.

If gun control advocates are serious about getting federal gun control forward, they should be focused on getting veto-proof majorities in the House and Senate. Unfortunately, structural advantages for the GOP make that impossible.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 26th 2018 at 4:47:44 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#253155: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:48:16 PM

Police report that the lone shooter is dead.

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Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253156: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:49:01 PM

[up][up]State legislatures and Governors exist, yes Federal gun control isn't going to happen until we have a Democratic Congress+President but if a wave occurs and Democrats sweep through local positions then very real progress on gun control can still occur.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 26th 2018 at 4:48:36 AM

"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#253157: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:49:08 PM

A Democratic president will also help tremendously.

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#253158: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:49:52 PM

[up][up] It’s good enough for now until we get more concrete information, but we’re still at the “anonymous sources” stage. We should expect the story to change or clarify within the day.

They should have sent a poet.
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253159: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:51:51 PM

[up][up][up]State laws can only do so much to stem gun violence. California is having to deal with multiple guns coming from states like Nevada, Arizona and Oregon, neither of whom have gun laws as strict as California's.

Plus there's the possibility that an activist Supreme Court will nullify all those laws like they did with Washington D.C. and Chicago.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 26th 2018 at 4:52:36 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#253160: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:52:17 PM

[up][up]Both victims quoted in the LA Times story were named. Steven Javaruski and Drini Gjoka.

[up]Can states not pass laws disallowing the entry of guns from other states?

Edited by PhysicalStamina on Aug 26th 2018 at 4:52:20 AM

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253161: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:54:21 PM

[up]Not if the guns in question are illegal trafficked and the states that are the source of those crime guns do nothing to stop the trafficking.

And again, there's the possibility that the Supreme Court can strike all those strict gun laws down as unconstitutional, setting back gun policy by decades.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 26th 2018 at 4:54:00 AM

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archonspeaks Since: Jun, 2013
#253162: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:56:12 PM

[up][up] Ah, I didn't see they were named.

As for the other question, it's almost impossible to stop people from transporting guns from state to state. Which is why we should be permitting at the federal level.

They should have sent a poet.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#253163: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:57:40 PM

We only have the LA Times reporting about something witnesses have said. For one, witnesses can be wrong. And two, we don't know if there is about the player losing the game and going amok, it is entirely possible that this was a planned attack.

I am sorry about being such a stickler about it. It's possible that there will be an official statement which confirms the scenario above. But I think that one huge problem we have nowadays is that everyone runs with the tiny bit of news and often there is read more into it than there is actually there.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#253164: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:57:58 PM

Short of setting up checkpoints at every state border there's just no way to feasibly stop out of state purchasing and straw buys from happening.

All gun control measures are useless unless they happen at a federal level.

Oh really when?
Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253165: Aug 26th 2018 at 1:58:40 PM

[up][up][up]Exactly. It's why France couldn't stop terrorists from getting long rifles and military weaponry: they all came from out of the country!

[up]And that's why gun control activists are dejected despite all the progress in the state level.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 26th 2018 at 5:00:02 AM

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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#253166: Aug 26th 2018 at 2:02:05 PM

[up][up]Useless strikes me as overstating it. Not as useful as they were intended to be, perhaps, but not everyone is going to find the idea of going all the way to the state border and back practical.

Fourthspartan56 from Georgia, US Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#253167: Aug 26th 2018 at 2:02:09 PM

State laws can only do so much to stem gun violence. California is having to deal with multiple guns coming from states like Nevada, Arizona and Oregon, neither of whom have gun laws as strict as California's.

Plus there's the possibility that an activist Supreme Court will nullify all those laws like they did with Washington D.C. and Chicago.

I said it would make things better not that it would make them perfect.

Thus all of these points are irrelevant, local legislatures have a great deal of power in our system and it is incredibly foolish to ignore that when discussing any issue.

If the Supreme Court decides to try to strike down something as popular as gun control then they will simply be harming their own power which will make it easier for us to pack the court and thus pass gun control and other necessary reforms. So I don't see that as necessarily a bad thing.

Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 26th 2018 at 5:04:30 AM

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#253168: Aug 26th 2018 at 2:05:22 PM

Well, thing is the French police got a warning from Bavaria ahead of the Paris attack, because the local police there had stopped a weapon delivery to Paris. It just somehow went unheard.

Contrary to popular belief, the borders in Europe are NOT completely open, there is still border police stopping vehicles. Just not directly at the border.

But the number of weapons within the country is only tangible related to how accessible they are anyway.

Edited by Swanpride on Aug 26th 2018 at 2:08:07 AM

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#253169: Aug 26th 2018 at 2:53:57 PM

Obama and W Bush will speak at Mccain's funeral, Trump was told to stay away.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/25/us/politics/john-mccain-funeral.html

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Deadbeatloser22 from Disappeared by Space Magic (Great Old One) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#253170: Aug 26th 2018 at 3:00:44 PM

Thank fuck for that. He'd just start grandstanding and mocking McCain for getting shot down and captured again.

"Yup. That tasted purple."
PhysicalStamina i'm tired, my friend (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#253171: Aug 26th 2018 at 3:02:00 PM

Part of me is seriously pondering the likelihood of him crashing the funeral anyway.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#253172: Aug 26th 2018 at 3:07:16 PM

Yeah, I might not like Mc Cain, but he truly doesn't deserve that Trump turns up in order to make his funeral all about himself. He will try to seize the day anyway but sending of an insulting tweet.

Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253173: Aug 26th 2018 at 3:15:01 PM

May not be too important but I'm surprised this hasn't gotten national media attention: White House advisor Stephen Miller has about $1,001 to $15,000 worth of stock in Disney, per his public financial disclosures.

If I were Disney, I'd want to avoid yet another PR disaster and buy that white nationalist's stock back.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#253174: Aug 26th 2018 at 3:22:07 PM

I still can't get over how a Jewish man thinks being a white nationalist is a good idea...

And lots of people buy marginal levels of stocks from public companies, you can't stop assholes from being low level shareholders.

Edited by Rationalinsanity on Aug 26th 2018 at 7:24:22 AM

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Mario1995 The Dishonorable from Atlanta Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
The Dishonorable
#253175: Aug 26th 2018 at 3:28:56 PM

It's just that with the recent James Gunn situation and the backlash against Disney for pandering to lowlifes like Mike Cernovich, this revelation just makes them look even worse.

Edited by Mario1995 on Aug 26th 2018 at 6:30:23 AM

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