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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 30th 2023 at 11:03:59 AM
It's simple, hold your sympathy for his family while keeping in mind that the man himself spent the legislative portion of his life poorly.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Aug 25th 2018 at 8:55:22 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangMc Cain prevented the appeal of Obama Care by one vote.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.I still recall a Cracked article detailing the Screwjob they did on him - he had no reason to be as unfathomably loyal to the Republican Party line as he was. Basically, Mc Cain had an adoptive Bangladeshi daughter named Brigid. The Republicans in power used some really disgusting racist attacks on her to get at her dad purely to keep him out of I think it was the Presidential seat so as to give their puppet Bush the seat.
That is remarkably cold-hearted...I'm kind of impressed.
Edited by NickTheSwing on Aug 25th 2018 at 6:25:02 AM
I feel like there's a difference between "general" sympathy, and "specific" sympathy. I feel general sympathy in it's sad that a person was dying of cancer, and one known for being very voracious at that. That doesn't mean I have to agree with Mc Cain's politic stances or decisions, or can't feel relief that he won't be making them anymore.
Personally, the big thing to note is that a person's policies do not necessarily define personal character. A person can have bad legislation or even pretty bad political beliefs and not necessarily be evil. Mc Cain himself, whatever you think of his personal views, was a guy who suffered a lot for his country and I do believe his actions in politics were largely motivated by a genuine desire to help his country.
And keep in mind is that a lot of these sorts of policies are actually fairly popular. Not a majority, per se, but saying that a politician deserves to die of cancer for opposing a policy that a very good chunk of the nation opposes is a bit...bizarre. Does every person who voted against Obama in '08 deserve to die of cancer?
Leviticus 19:34When you can hate your own father that much, it becomes trivial to deny anyone else the right to your sympathy.
... It may also have to do with having spent my childhood and adolescence absolutely hating the guts of the Prime Ministers of Israel that came after Yitzhak Rabin for all the atrocities they've presided upon and enabled.
Edited by MarqFJA on Aug 25th 2018 at 4:48:41 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.This feels similar to Antonin Scalia’s passing. I just cannot forget that Mc Cain spent his career doing a lot of damage by remaining loyal to people who did not deserve such loyalty.
Disgusted, but not surprisedY’know, a few years ago, I would have agreed with you. Heck, I may have voted for Mc Cain in 2008... I honestly don’t remember. I was in the midst of shifting from conservative to liberal (and eventually progressive) and I honestly don’t remember if I voted for Mc Cain as a last gasp of teenage conservatism or if I begrudgingly voted for Obama.
Either way, I don’t think John Mc Cain was a man of honor or integrity. This 2008 Rolling Stone profile is why.
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This too, essentially.
Edited by MarqFJA on Aug 25th 2018 at 4:49:36 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.Posting this article about how McCain neutered his own anti-torture bill to keep it from affecting the CIA, then voted against a Democrat version that would have penalized the CIA and called for Bush to veto it, which he did.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 25th 2018 at 6:56:33 AM
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They do when they directly pertaining to a post that was made in response to an on-topic piece of news.
See? More than just Obamacare. You all have to realize that some people just deserve no sympathy whatsoever.
Have any of you felt sympathy for Osama Bin Laden when he was assassinated?
Edited by MarqFJA on Aug 25th 2018 at 5:01:25 PM
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I’d remind people that Marq is coming at this from the perspective of someone in the Middle East, a region that has suffered greatly under the hawkism pushed by Mc Cain.
Mc Cain strongly represented the foreign policy ideas that were seen under Bush (with the exception of torture), as such people who see such foreign policy as monstrous are likly to see Mc Cain the same way.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranIt isn't.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 26th 2018 at 5:37:43 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.And things like that are why I say I'm not going to tell people how to feel. You probably should do the same.
Really, it's not even about deserving anything. Some people can't just go "I don't care."
Edited by LSBK on Aug 25th 2018 at 9:07:20 AM
Here's Trump's tweet regarding McCain's death - My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John Mc Cain. Our hearts and prayers are with you!
And conversely, here's Obama's
Few of us have been tested the way John once was, or required to show the kind of courage that he did. But all of us can aspire to the courage to put the greater good above our own. At John's best, he showed us what that means. And for that, we are all in his debt. Michelle and I send our heartfelt condolences to Cindy and their family.
Edited by ironballs16 on Aug 25th 2018 at 7:14:10 AM
"Why would I inflict myself on somebody else?"

If memory serves in this instance the governor appoints a replacement of the same party, that replacement serves until 2019 when the senate seat will be up in a special election.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran